Just to clarify, you made $75K playing 2/5 and PLO? (819*46)+(974*39)?

first 5 sessions of 2020 results all at $5/$5:
+$35
-$362
+$2810
+$579
+$500

pretty quiet week or so except for saturday which was an absolute great game with all the football bettors in the casino.

I wish I had that sort of volume

974 is the total, so it's 974*39=~38000

(I've got 1480 hours between 2/5 NLH and PLO for 65 an hour / ~96000 won so it's definitely possible if you run like Usain Bolt)

Finished the year up:

~$21,000 over a little under 400 hours. This is a mix if 1/2 and 1/3 NLHE, a little 2/5 NLHE, and PLO (mainly 1/2/5 with some 5/5/10 thrown in).

Unfortunately, started 2020 down $1,400! Ugh. Not a good Vegas trip for me. It was mainly PLO and some bad luck with a little bad play thrown in. I hope my NLHE game tonight goes a little better.

Nice results Java!

Do you not break down your results per game? Having even a little 5/5/10 PLO results thrown into a run-of-the-mill 1/2 NL game can skew things pretty quickly.

I'm also off to a rough start in 2020; down $49 in my 1/3 NL game, lolz.

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Congrats to you, too! Especially on the $100k

I have it broken down, but not perfectly. I'm lazy.

PLO I'm up ~$14,775. (That includes one night of ROE.) About 170 hrs.
NLHE I'm up ~$6,250. About 230 hrs.

I wish I could play more PLO!!!

Edit: Also, I started keeping track February 6. I have no idea what happened before then

Well played Java!

Holy ****...$52/hour?! where do you play to get that kind of action?

Great results. And where do you usually play? At a big casino/tourist area with lots of fish coming through?

Fairly small casino thats pretty reg heavy, it's unusual to play with an unfamiliar face.

Don't do myself any favors either since my sessions are not of the night time or weekend variety.

I play in a local underground game. No casinos/rooms in my state. The PLO is only once a month, but the action is amazing (and most don't know how to play). I play a lot of PLO in Vegas a few times a year, too, and at the casinos about an hour+ away. If you can handle the variance and have the bankroll and lots of patience, I highly recommend this game.

Our "local" NLHE games are amazing, too. The action is insane with lots of straddling, bomb pots, etc. Un-capped buy-in.

Played last night and won $640 at 1/2 NLHE, so getting back on track for the year!

Not sure if off topic, if I am mods please direct me to a LLSNL chat thread.

When I'm winning I tend to watch more entertainment videos like Andrew Neeme and Brad Owen. When I'm losing I tend to watch more poker training videos. Anyone else do this too?

You mean, at the table???

Definitely not at the table. I never watch any videos at the table I mostly just browse facebook or read stuff. And if it's ever 2+2 or poker strategy articles I try to keep my phone low Mike Postle style cause I don't want my neighbours catching that out of the corner or their eye.

I mean it makes sense. Most people don't question their play much when they're winning. And doubt it a lot when they're losing.

I watch videos for study during the appropriate segment of my study time and entertainment videos during my spare time.

Apologies, I'm sure this has been discussed earlier itt.

I am curious how others track promotions like high hands, aces cracked, etc. I usually just add them to my stack and just enter my cash out number into the app after the session. I assume this has skewed my hourly the past couple of years and want to be a little more accurate this year. I've heard arguments that since they take a promo drop, this is ok. However, I don't really track the rake of different games so this doesn't seem relevant to me.

My second question is regarding the tracking of tips. For the people who track tips, are they doing this for each hand won or for drinks/food etc? Again, I usually just track my cash out and just consider the tips for dealers and waitresses as part of the session. Is there a reason to get specific in this area? I know I over tip at times. Specifically when I find that a dealer/waitress makes a game more enjoyable or when they are snubbed by others at the table.

Appreciate y'alls consideration and answers...

Dont track tips. Be happier.

As far as HH, Promos, etc. Include them in your hourly rate, but just mark them separate in your tracking so you can filter them out later to understand true win rate.

For "expectable" promos, I just consider it a form of rakeback and don't track it separately. For big rarely hit ones, like a BBJ, I would track it separately, as it's only theoretically expected and if I ever hit it it would really skew my results. Most of us never will hit it in order to finance the lucky few.

I consider dealer tips part of the cost of doing business and don't track. Drinks and waitress tips are optional expenses, so I don't track them as part of my BR. Instead I consider it non-poker spending.

I'm lazy and consider my poker sessions as a whole, so I know what I buy in with and what I cash out with is my winnings -- and that is what I track. I don't take out for tips, drinks, food, promos, bomb pots, etc. I would take out a huge BBJ or similar, but I don't expect that any time soon -- especially since I usually play PLO in rooms that have them, and PLO players aren't offered many big promos

Promotions get included in my overall results, but not in the results for that particular game. Since I am generally maxed out for my buy-in, promotional money can't be added to the table anyway.

I don't track dealer tokes; they are effectively part of the rake.

I don't buy food or tip waiters/waitresses with chips; I keep a stash of $1 bills in my pocket for tipping for coffee, etc. Payment for food and drinks comes out of my life expenses budget, not my poker bankroll.

I do track tokes to floorpeople, chiprunners, cashiers, etc. These are expenses related to playing, but they don't get included in session results. They get accounted similarly to travel expenses, training site subscriptions, books, etc.

I agree that tracking your tips would make you miserable

It's the cost of playing so looking at how much you donated through tips won't change anything about how much you pay but will cause undue emotional duress

I don't track tips, either for the dealer or the waitress. But I don't drink a lot at the table. It's a complete hassle too.

For small promos I'll just include it in my session results, along with a note (that I'll never read). The $50 splash pot or $100 hot seat stuff comes around often enough that it's just offsetting the jackpot drop.

BBJ or any other big/rare promotion gets logged separately as it's own game. So it'll show in my career or overall results, but not skew my $1/2 NLHE or $1/2 PLO or whatever I hit.

I'm like most others:

- any tips to the dealer are just considered part of my cash in / cash out profit or loss; I don't track them individually (sounds like a nightmare)
- any promotional wins / BBJs / etc. I track in a separate column in my Excel sheet so as not to screw up my actual winrate computation
- any food / etc. is payed out of my pocket separate from my stack and isn't included in my poker profit/loss

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