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Old 01-02-2020, 08:39 PM   #24801
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I finished the year as follows

.25-50c Mix home games 133.50 hrs 14.91 $/hr 1990$ Profit
1-2/1-3/2-5 NLHE 16 hrs 81.56 $/hr 1305$ Profit
1-2/1-3/2-5 PLO 124.36 hrs 43.33 $/hr 5389$ Profit

Not much of the 1-2/1-3/2-5 is 2-5, so don't look into that much.

Looks like I need to host less house games and play more PLO at the casino!
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:10 PM   #24802
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I generally play low stakes no limit hold em. I’m just smart enough to calculate a win rate in BB’s/hr. As I change stakes I get a weighted average BB to use as the numerator. However, I will occasionally play limit hold em waiting for a seat in NL or limit Omaha H/L because I like the game. Can you factor in a limit BB or Omaha BB or PLO into the same B.B./Hr calculation? Certainly in terms of $$/hr it’s straightforward, seems less so in terms of BB / hr for blended play. Thanks.
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:03 PM   #24803
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If I recall (it's been over a decade since I've played Limit regularly), Limit is measured in BB (Big Bets, not big blinds) per hour. And if I recall, anything in the ~1 BB/hr would be considered pretty good (whereas ~1 bb/hr in NL would be considered fairly pedestrian). So not really comparable?

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Old 01-04-2020, 12:18 PM   #24804
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Great job GG on your 100K! admire the very consistent results.....
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:12 PM   #24805
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819hrs in my reg 2/5 for the year @ $46

Adding the 1/2 while waiting to be seated and some lackluster plo results...

974hrs @ $39
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Old 01-09-2020, 09:12 AM   #24806
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819hrs in my reg 2/5 for the year @ $46

Adding the 1/2 while waiting to be seated and some lackluster plo results...

974hrs @ $39
Well played!
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:10 PM   #24807
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Cash game stats May 2019-Present

Total profit: $2467
282 hours, 12 minutes
62/113 cashed
tips/meals $155
$/hr $8.74

(.02/.04)
total profit: $5.32
hours: 37.39
$/hr: $0.14

(.05/.10)
total profit: $255.92
hours: 93 hours, 21 minutes
$/hr: $2.74

(.10/.20)
total profit: $311.05
hours: 55 hours, 39 minutes
$/hr: 5.59

(.25/.50)
total profit: -52.04
hours: 33 hours, 26 minutes
$/hr -1.56

($1/$2)
total profit: $1962
hours: 51 hours, 53 minutes
$/hr: 37.81


What do you guys think about these numbers? Seems like a large enough sample to determine i’m a winning player but not enough to know how much of a winning player. $1/$2 was live and that seemed to be the softest stake. probably even softer than .05/.10 online.
I think I can beat $1/$2 for $20/hour easy. .25/.50 was tough but seemed beatable for maybe 6-7bb/hour.
Thinking about making the move to live $1/$2 as it has been terribly soft every time I have played.
Would love to hear any thoughts on these numbers.
Also, my first time ever posting so my apologies if format is wrong!!
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:18 PM   #24808
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Already got 51 hours of volume in with a little Vegas trip!

Only managed a measly +$280 for the trip though 2 days of being completely card/draw dead, and a final session cooler (45 vs A3 & 22 all in on an A23 board, runner runner 4-flush) really hurt.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:25 PM   #24809
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Cash game stats May 2019-Present

Total profit: $2467
282 hours, 12 minutes
62/113 cashed
tips/meals $155
$/hr $8.74

(.02/.04)
total profit: $5.32
hours: 37.39
$/hr: $0.14

(.05/.10)
total profit: $255.92
hours: 93 hours, 21 minutes
$/hr: $2.74

(.10/.20)
total profit: $311.05
hours: 55 hours, 39 minutes
$/hr: 5.59

(.25/.50)
total profit: -52.04
hours: 33 hours, 26 minutes
$/hr -1.56

($1/$2)
total profit: $1962
hours: 51 hours, 53 minutes
$/hr: 37.81


What do you guys think about these numbers? Seems like a large enough sample to determine i’m a winning player but not enough to know how much of a winning player. $1/$2 was live and that seemed to be the softest stake. probably even softer than .05/.10 online.
I think I can beat $1/$2 for $20/hour easy. .25/.50 was tough but seemed beatable for maybe 6-7bb/hour.
Thinking about making the move to live $1/$2 as it has been terribly soft every time I have played.
Would love to hear any thoughts on these numbers.
Also, my first time ever posting so my apologies if format is wrong!!
I won't comment on the on-line results (this is a LLSNL forum).

As for the 1/2 results, you're off to a great start... over lol 52 hours, which is literally next to nothing. Not saying you won't do good, just saying that shipping $20/hr may not be quite as easy as you think; or, who knows, maybe it will turn out to be. But you'll have a much better idea of this after getting in like 20x the volume you have at this point.

Ggoodluck!G
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:35 PM   #24810
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I won't comment on the on-line results (this is a LLSNL forum).

As for the 1/2 results, you're off to a great start... over lol 52 hours, which is literally next to nothing. Not saying you won't do good, just saying that shipping $20/hr may not be quite as easy as you think; or, who knows, maybe it will turn out to be. But you'll have a much better idea of this after getting in like 20x the volume you have at this point.

Ggoodluck!G

Right, I figured as much. 50 hours is nothing but as I said, I didn’t feel like I was running super hot or anything crazy. Felt I was best player at every table I played. Excited to get the volume in that I need to actually see!
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:47 PM   #24811
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I don't know what kind of stupid pills people are on today, but everyone knock it off.

Anyone continuing this conversation here will be banned. Those that started it / continued it might be temp banned, I'm still deciding.
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Old 01-09-2020, 08:06 PM   #24812
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In particular, this is not a BBV thread, or a chat thread.

Spy, I realize you were stoked about your big session, but this isn't the place for it.

+rep, have you heard of a little thing called PMs? Or maybe his PG&C? Did you read the thread rules you accepted before you started posting?

Everyone else, reminder that those thread rules specify not to respond to idiocy ITT, but to just hit the post report button.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:45 AM   #24813
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819hrs in my reg 2/5 for the year @ $46

Adding the 1/2 while waiting to be seated and some lackluster plo results...

974hrs @ $39
Just to clarify, you made $75K playing 2/5 and PLO? (819*46)+(974*39)?
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:51 AM   #24814
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first 5 sessions of 2020 results all at $5/$5:
+$35
-$362
+$2810
+$579
+$500

pretty quiet week or so except for saturday which was an absolute great game with all the football bettors in the casino.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:24 AM   #24815
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Just to clarify, you made $75K playing 2/5 and PLO? (819*46)+(974*39)?
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Old 01-10-2020, 11:51 AM   #24816
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Just to clarify, you made $75K playing 2/5 and PLO? (819*46)+(974*39)?
974 is the total, so it's 974*39=~38000

(I've got 1480 hours between 2/5 NLH and PLO for 65 an hour / ~96000 won so it's definitely possible if you run like Usain Bolt)
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:43 PM   #24817
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Finished the year up:

~$21,000 over a little under 400 hours. This is a mix if 1/2 and 1/3 NLHE, a little 2/5 NLHE, and PLO (mainly 1/2/5 with some 5/5/10 thrown in).

Unfortunately, started 2020 down $1,400! Ugh. Not a good Vegas trip for me. It was mainly PLO and some bad luck with a little bad play thrown in. I hope my NLHE game tonight goes a little better.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:39 PM   #24818
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Nice results Java!

Do you not break down your results per game? Having even a little 5/5/10 PLO results thrown into a run-of-the-mill 1/2 NL game can skew things pretty quickly.

I'm also off to a rough start in 2020; down $49 in my 1/3 NL game, lolz.

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Old 01-10-2020, 05:51 PM   #24819
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Nice results Java!

Do you not break down your results per game? Having even a little 5/5/10 PLO results thrown into a run-of-the-mill 1/2 NL game can skew things pretty quickly.

I'm also off to a rough start in 2020; down $49 in my 1/3 NL game, lolz.

Ggoodluckin2020!G
Congrats to you, too! Especially on the $100k

I have it broken down, but not perfectly. I'm lazy.

PLO I'm up ~$14,775. (That includes one night of ROE.) About 170 hrs.
NLHE I'm up ~$6,250. About 230 hrs.

I wish I could play more PLO!!!

Edit: Also, I started keeping track February 6. I have no idea what happened before then
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Old 01-10-2020, 07:10 PM   #24820
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Finished the year up:

~$21,000 over a little under 400 hours. This is a mix if 1/2 and 1/3 NLHE, a little 2/5 NLHE, and PLO (mainly 1/2/5 with some 5/5/10 thrown in).

Unfortunately, started 2020 down $1,400! Ugh. Not a good Vegas trip for me. It was mainly PLO and some bad luck with a little bad play thrown in. I hope my NLHE game tonight goes a little better.
Well played Java!
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:56 AM   #24821
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Finished the year up:

~$21,000 over a little under 400 hours. This is a mix if 1/2 and 1/3 NLHE, a little 2/5 NLHE, and PLO (mainly 1/2/5 with some 5/5/10 thrown in).

Unfortunately, started 2020 down $1,400! Ugh. Not a good Vegas trip for me. It was mainly PLO and some bad luck with a little bad play thrown in. I hope my NLHE game tonight goes a little better.
Holy ****...$52/hour?! where do you play to get that kind of action?
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:57 AM   #24822
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Great results. And where do you usually play? At a big casino/tourist area with lots of fish coming through?
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:34 AM   #24823
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Great results. And where do you usually play? At a big casino/tourist area with lots of fish coming through?
Fairly small casino thats pretty reg heavy, it's unusual to play with an unfamiliar face.

Don't do myself any favors either since my sessions are not of the night time or weekend variety.
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Old 01-11-2020, 07:20 PM   #24824
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Holy ****...$52/hour?! where do you play to get that kind of action?
I play in a local underground game. No casinos/rooms in my state. The PLO is only once a month, but the action is amazing (and most don't know how to play). I play a lot of PLO in Vegas a few times a year, too, and at the casinos about an hour+ away. If you can handle the variance and have the bankroll and lots of patience, I highly recommend this game.

Our "local" NLHE games are amazing, too. The action is insane with lots of straddling, bomb pots, etc. Un-capped buy-in.

Played last night and won $640 at 1/2 NLHE, so getting back on track for the year!
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:18 PM   #24825
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Not sure if off topic, if I am mods please direct me to a LLSNL chat thread.

When I'm winning I tend to watch more entertainment videos like Andrew Neeme and Brad Owen. When I'm losing I tend to watch more poker training videos. Anyone else do this too?
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