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Old 09-30-2019, 08:30 AM   #24226
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Just passed this weekend …

2k lifetime at $2/$5 NL:
Hours 2,007.4
Hrly $29.57
BB/Hr 5.9

1k-2k:
Hours 1,007.0
Hrly $30.69
BB/Hr 6.1

0-1k:
Hours 1,000.4
Hrly $28.45
BB/Hr 5.7
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:42 AM   #24227
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Just passed this weekend …

2k lifetime at $2/$5 NL:
Hours 2,007.4
Hrly $29.57
BB/Hr 5.9

1k-2k:
Hours 1,007.0
Hrly $30.69
BB/Hr 6.1

0-1k:
Hours 1,000.4
Hrly $28.45
BB/Hr 5.7
Solid!
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:49 AM   #24228
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Just passed this weekend …

2k lifetime at $2/$5 NL:
Hours 2,007.4
Hrly $29.57
BB/Hr 5.9

1k-2k:
Hours 1,007.0
Hrly $30.69
BB/Hr 6.1

0-1k:
Hours 1,000.4
Hrly $28.45
BB/Hr 5.7
Great job Samo! How many years does this span? I hit 3K hours recently and plan to post a graph soon too!
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:31 PM   #24229
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1/3 stat for this year. I play almost entirely on weekday afternoon.





Might play a bit more again, hence the increase in activity.

Game has some handicaps, $100 - $300 BI ($500 after 5pm), $300 max bet, 1 bet and 3 raises maximum each street.
Off to a great start, nice, imo.

Curious as to your rake / BBJ structure?

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Just passed this weekend …

2k lifetime at $2/$5 NL:
Hours 2,007.4
Hrly $29.57
BB/Hr 5.9

1k-2k:
Hours 1,007.0
Hrly $30.69
BB/Hr 6.1

0-1k:
Hours 1,000.4
Hrly $28.45
BB/Hr 5.7
Congrats samo!

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Old 09-30-2019, 05:10 PM   #24230
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4/3 for combined $7. Used to be $5, then everyone started raising it.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:21 PM   #24231
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4/3 for combined $7. Used to be $5, then everyone started raising it.
So $4 maximum rake and $3 to BBJ (and assuming high hands / etc. promotions)?

The $4 maximum rake is *awesome* (doubt you'll find a 1/3 NL game anywhere that has that low a rake).

I'm unsure of the $3 BBJ/promotions drop. If it goes to a lot of very commonly hit high hand / etc. promotions (which I'm assuming are being factored into your winrate?), then that ain't too bad as you're probably close to getting your money ~back. If it goes to a very rarely hit BBJ given to a lucky handful of players a few times a year, then it certainly sucks. If it's the former case, my guess is you have an extremely relatively favourable rake situation (the effect of which can't be discounted regarding winrates at the lowest-of-the-low-steaks rake traps).

Not dumping on your start at all (very impressive, gogogo imo!), just sayin'.

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Old 09-30-2019, 05:36 PM   #24232
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It wouldn’t be a brag if no one is dumping on it. I get how this game is played.

$3 jackpot takes a 15% “management” fee before distribution. Promotion varies, but I am sure I am getting a bigger chunk of my share by playing during slower traffic hours.

I can probably count number of times I make a bet of 100bb in a month with one hand. Any serious grinder would look at my game and walk away.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:53 PM   #24233
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It wouldn’t be a brag if no one is dumping on it. I get how this game is played.

$3 jackpot takes a 15% “management” fee before distribution. Promotion varies, but I am sure I am getting a bigger chunk of my share by playing during slower traffic hours.

I can probably count number of times I make a bet of 100bb in a month with one hand. Any serious grinder would look at my game and walk away.
Maybe anyone who plays in games with more action can answer this but I don't find anything abnormal about that. If I had to guess Id say I make a bet of 100BBs maybe once every 200-400 hours?

I don't think you need many huge pots to win big.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:02 PM   #24234
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It wouldn’t be a brag if no one is dumping on it. I get how this game is played.

$3 jackpot takes a 15% “management” fee before distribution. Promotion varies, but I am sure I am getting a bigger chunk of my share by playing during slower traffic hours.

I can probably count number of times I make a bet of 100bb in a month with one hand. Any serious grinder would look at my game and walk away.
Yeah, agreed the management fee is definitely cutting into your ~getting-your-money back on the promotions, so you're going to come out a small loser there no doubt. Still, I'm pretty sure I'd trade it in a heartbeat for my $8/$1 rake/quad88+BBJ. Although interestingly enough in your structure you would probably benefit from a laggier method (rake isn't as effecting in the small pots, more chance of hitting promotion hands, etc.), whereas I'm pretty convinced a nittier-than-nit tight method is best in poorer structures (assuming small BI).

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Old 09-30-2019, 07:21 PM   #24235
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Great job Samo! How many years does this span? I hit 3K hours recently and plan to post a graph soon too!
Thx guys!

Most of them, ~1.6k, have been logged since I retired in early 2017. Did not begin playing poker until 2011.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:27 PM   #24236
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What are your favorite iPhone apps for tracking live poker results?

I have been using "Poker Income" because it was the highest rated on the app store. It gets the job done - tracks my results, tips, stddev, etc. However the UI kinda sucks. It's very bland. The graphing feature is atrocious and the graphs look terrible.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:33 PM   #24237
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RunGood is pretty popular.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:54 AM   #24238
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Best tracking apps that are easy to backup to a computer?
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Old 10-01-2019, 05:17 AM   #24239
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Played 4 sessions this month.

+1339 in 13 hours played. Nice picking up poker randomly through busy IRL stuff and making an easy G.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:36 PM   #24240
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Anyone have a decent sample size of plo and want to share their winrate and standard deviation?
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:30 AM   #24241
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What's decent size? I have 150 hours, but my game is $300 cap, so it's not really PLO.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:45 AM   #24242
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What's decent size? I have 150 hours, but my game is $300 cap, so it's not really PLO.
For what?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:34 AM   #24243
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What is so hard to figure out? I think the upper limit for 1/2 at my room is $60/hour. I think the upper limit for 2/5 is $100-120/hour. Since 2/5 is more profitable I've only played two 1/2 sessions this year.

I personally don't participate in "maximum WR" discussions because I think they are all flawed. The theoretical "max WR" that could be achieved would be the amount you could win if you could see your opponents hole cards. Just pulling a number out of my ass, that could be $500+ at 2/5.
Truer words have never been written than this prophetic 2016 post. Shoutout Mike "God" Postle
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:39 PM   #24244
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Truer words have never been written than this prophetic 2016 post. Shoutout Mike "God" Postle
Hah. I was just thinking about that post in light of the scandal.

My "upper limit" estimates were so incredibly flawed as well. Variance coming full circle will do that.
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:01 PM   #24245
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Anyone have a decent sample size of plo and want to share their winrate and standard deviation?
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:06 PM   #24246
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RunGood is pretty popular.
Thank you.

On the surface this seems better than Poker Income. One feature I wish it had was that on Poker Income during a live session you can tap the "tip" button to add +$1 tip to your session. RunGood doesn't seem to have this feature or a concept of tips, but instead tracks "expenses". If I wanted to track my tips I would need to manually add an expense of $1 every time I tipped. Not a big deal though.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:09 PM   #24247
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If you're that concerned about it (you probably shouldn't be) buy $50 in $1 chips and tip from your pocket every hand. Then you can just count what's left.

But again, dont track it imo.
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:48 AM   #24248
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I have seen a guy who brings a stack of $1's and tip it out of his pocket after every win.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:05 AM   #24249
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If you always tip a dollar and track how many pots you win, you know how much you have paid in tips.

I don't use a poker app; I use EverNote, but that is because I am continually taking notes about what I see (what people show down what they open with, what they three-bet with, what they coldcall with, u.s.w.)
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:42 AM   #24250
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I don't use a poker app; I use EverNote, but that is because I am continually taking notes about what I see (what people show down what they open with, what they three-bet with, what they coldcall with, u.s.w.)
Thats a good one. However, how do you remember who is who after few weeks? Do you put nicknames to the players in the notes?
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