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It starts with the one "pro" at the table. Then the try hard recs notice and think they're at a disadvantage...so they start doing it. Then the fun players notice everyone else but them is doing it...and decide the game is no longer fun and go to craps.

Awesome results!

The only thing I would be cautious of is that overall you still have a very small sample size. It's also not impossible that you're just on an insane heater the last ~250 hours (especially considering your first ~300 hours you looked to be at about ~$15/hr, which is still very good in a high raked game).

Ggoodluck!G

^^What app is that

And what are some apps you guys use? I’m currently just taking notes

Just put a filter on my PokerJournal for listing all my 1/3 NL sessions where I did 4+ BIs.

To be honest, I'm not sure if it tells me much. 13 wins versus 65 losses over 78 sessions, for a winrate of -$38.33/hr (-12.78 bb/hr) over ~707 hours. Big surprise, I lost money overall whenever I was on my 4th+ BI.

The real question would be how much money I made back (or kept losing) in those games, of which I would have a difficult time telling without investigating each one of the sessions individually (which I'm too lazy to do).

I'm also not sure how applicable those stats are since I've moved to my Super Nit strategy almost ~1300 hours ago (where I simply no longer book large losses, with only 2 losses those 169 sessions being over 200bbs, and only 4 over 166bbs).

GcluelessmultipleBInoobG

I'm using two apps at the moment because the first app doesn't have an export feature and I'm too lazy to manually enter 5 years of data into the new app. Pokermate (old) and Poker Bankroll Tracker (new). I like features of both too. The Pokermate developer said a new version was coming but it's way past due. The built in reports are better in Pokermate but the graphs, export, and expanded filters in PBT along with tons of other bells and whistles are overall better IMO.

True, this is what I was getting at. Just getting feedback that solid winners have 5 BI sessions is encouraging though. Side note, there was a guy on the list in my local room with initials GG. Are you on vacation? LOL

Lol, and I always thought it was weird that random people would give a shout out to me in random threads, before I realized GG = Good Game.

GlolG

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that app Pipedreamer is using is RunGood. I use that too for tracking everything as it happens and keep an excel spreadsheet which serves as a primary backup and has much more functionality.

hey Im having really good results this year for very low time. Im playin partime because im doing a paid internship.

I play a REALLY SOFT cash game in my local casino, and win constantly, however my poker bankroll is very short (10 buy ins). I know it's a high risk strategy but the game is so juicy I don't wanna move down.

Is my approach too wreckless or should I take the risk since the table is so soft?

Anyway... what's the textbook optimal bankroll strategy for live cash games?

Don't be a bankroll nit and just play the game and full buy into it. Don't use a high variance strategy. Play pot control, trap hands, use delayed c-bets instead of a very high c-bet frequency, and bluff at a frequency appropriate for your table. If you are a table full of calling stations then bluff at a low frequency.

Just play, if it's as soft as you say then you shouldn't be at much risk of going bust, just keep your winnings in your roll.

Definitely this. If you have to withdraw your winnings fron your bankroll, you should move down because you only have downside, bankroll- wise.

What stake is that?

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1/3 500 max most likely

Just curious..is this saying that in order for me to have a risk of ruin of 5%..I only need a 7 buyin bankroll?

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Yes, that’s what it is saying, and it seems the app is doing the calculation correctly.

If your assumptions about WR and SD are correct, sure.

35.5 BB / 100 hands is 10.65 BB/hr at 30 hands/hr. That's a pretty good clip, More than most players can manage. See what happens if you put in half that.

I don't remember how to do the SD conversion offhand (has some sqrt I think). But that value may be bad too.

It's always good to do an uncertainty analysis of your inputs for something like this. How do the results change if you're off by 10%? 25%? Etc.

How can I do that? Its roughly 1100 hours of cash game play

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Start by plugging different inputs into your calculator. Or if that won't do it, use this one: https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

I prefer a calculator over a simulator for this specific purpose:

http://www.reviewpokerrooms.com/poke...uirements.html

A simulator does a better job allowing you to visualize and comes with more information, but a calculator gives an exact answer.

Slightly off topic but does anyone have any good data or at least educated guesses on PLO vs NLHE winrates? If you had two equally skilled players playing 5/5 NLHE and 5/5 PLO, who would you expect to make more over a large sample? I’ve tried to search this but answers for PLO seem to be all over the map.

Ahh it's in "poker bankroll tracker" app. It's not a calculator so it just goes off my sessions.

I went there and it shows the same as the app.

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Similarly skilled players would win far more in PLO because the average pot size is bigger and (imo) the average player skill is worse.

The end of August marks the end of Year 2 for myself as an active poker enthusiast. I played a lot of online in the pre-black whateverday it was that happened in my youth. After an extended break, which included ( and still includes) a family and other responsibilities, I've been back playing seriously (on a part time basis) for two years.

By serious I mean that I've been giving attention to my game and trying to improve. And that when I do play, I'm trying to bring my A game as often as possible, not simply goofing around with some friends at the table. (Don't worry, I leave my hoodie and sunglasses at home). In the months moving forward, I'm trying to hit 2-3 sessions per week, and about 20hrs/week of table time.

I want to say thanks to all the posters who continue to give out excellent actionable knowledge to the community, you guys here have helped me a lot. So THANK YOU!

Results so Far: I clearly have gotten some serious good fortune here, and its still a small sample. But I no longer question whether I can consistently win at this game (which I did 2 years ago).

Limits: Hours: Profit: $/hr:
$2/5 - 125 - $2335 $18.68/hr
$1/3 - 296 - $10002 $33.79/hr
$1/2 - 243 - $13615 $56.03/hr

Overall: 664 hrs - $25,952 - and $39.05/hr. With SD of $280/hr.

Notes: You can see in the graph that I've been on a heater recently and that has come principally at $1-2 and driving those stats through the roof. My 1-2 game generally plays deep, and commonly has 200bb+ average stacks in play, which improves the WR significantly. Even as such, we are talking very small hours, and I have no confidence in these WR numbers. I only am glad to say that I DO feel confident that I can continue to beat the game, which I owe in a meaningful way to the generous members of this community... so thank you again!

Goals: I'd like to improve my volume as I mentioned. I'd also like to build my bankroll up to about $20k and start taking some shots at the $2/5 game more often. I've been not keeping a separate life roll and poker roll, so that needs to happen before I play more consistently at the higher stakes. I'd like to improve to where $2/5 becomes my normal game, and the highest profit for me.