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Old 06-22-2019, 08:20 AM   #23901
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but the variance is massive, and the edge is frequently lower because the hand values run closer a lot of the time. So basically you want around 5x the bankroll for similar stakes, and it frequently plays bigger than the denoted blinds, due to rocks/straddles/etc.
Misconception I think. Certainly edges being smaller is dependent on the game.

Learning new games ime is a great way to get a fresh feel of the game and combat mental fatigue.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:13 AM   #23902
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Personally when I am running like ass the absolute last thing I want to do when I am doubting myself is go into a game that increases my variance. In fact I go back to basics. I screw my game down and and just try to play rock solid tag poker. As I come out of things and I get my head back together I begin to re open up my game.
Big +1.

I had about 150-200 hours recently that were barely better than break even and once I got myself focused on just playing super solid/nothing fancy poker I started to get back in the swing of things. Now I’m starting to trust my instincts again and picking up lots of dead $, etc.
Sometimes I really believe it’s important to just strip your game down to the basics again and build back up from there. It’s also an excellent way to notice and plug leaks.
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Old 06-22-2019, 07:25 PM   #23903
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Anyone know if there are any poker tracking apps for android that i can easily transfer my poker income pro stats from my iphone to?
Looks like the poker income app for android does not export data anymore according to the reviews on google play store and i am switching from iphone to android. Have over 1k hours in data i don't want to lose and want to transfer somehow to the new phone.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:56 PM   #23904
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Stab in the dark would be to export to an excel format and then manipulate the data into the format of an eventual android app you find that you can import.
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:13 PM   #23905
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Taking a brief vaca with daughter, will not play again until July, so here is my 2019 halftime report:

Total $15,420
Hours 395.92
Hrly $38.95

$2/$5 NL Total $15,290
$2/$5 NL Hours 385.25
$2/$5 NL Hrly $39.69 (7.9 bbs/hr)

$1/$2 NL Total $130
$1/$2 NL Hours 10.67
$1/$2 NL Hrly $12.19 (6.1 bbs/hr)

Play in a Northeast room, $2/$5 NL w/a $1k cap BI. Typical $5+$2 drop at $50, no flop, no rake.
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:12 PM   #23906
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Very nice samo solid volume
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:09 PM   #23907
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Ya, nice job Samo.
That’s real solid.
Enjoy the break.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:33 AM   #23908
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I kind of know how you feel. I've had two 50+/hr years in a row, about 1000 hrs total, but this year nothing seems to be going my way, about 250 hrs in. I'm still up a little bit, basically because I've played a couple of hours in a bigger game than my usual stakes and won some money there, but overall I'm currently at zero BB/hr, and one or two bad sessions away from going into the red. I feel like I just can't beat the game anymore. Luckily I've only ever considered myself an okayish player at best and I'm well aware that, even though I'm truly running horribly, I still have only myself to blame for a good deal of my losses, so I don't necessarily feel entitled to anything either. But poker is definitely not much fun these days, that's for sure.

I'm still hoping my luck will turn and I'll catch a few breaks here and there soon, though. As long as I keep learning from my mistakes (or at least try to lol), things will eventually get better. Right?
I'm going through the same thing, except I sunran for one week this year and won only a little outside of that. Graph looks like a step function.

If you draw a line from A to B it looks ok but going sideways forever and ever feels pretty bad. I'd almost rather lose like a real man. You post good and play good so just keep at it and don't make ****ty river calls. Anyway I'm glad you posted basically the same thing I'm going through, misery enjoys company I guess
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:03 PM   #23909
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Very nice samo solid volume
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Ya, nice job Samo.
That’s real solid.
Enjoy the break.
Thx guys.

Buz - will likely play an event/cash during the Borg Open. Maybe our paths will cross.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:58 PM   #23910
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Mid-year stats (although started in Feb.). Running well so far, but I have a great home game. Don't play often, though.

1/2 and 1/3 NLHE: $5,250
Hours: 108
Hourly: $48.61

2/5 NLHE: $2,200
Hours: 4
Hourly: $550 (LOL)

1/2/5 and 5/5 PLO: $4,905
Hours: 64
Hourly: $79.64

I hope the run-good lasts throughout the year!
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:07 PM   #23911
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Mid-year stats (although started in Feb.). Running well so far, but I have a great home game. Don't play often, though.

1/2 and 1/3 NLHE: $5,250
Hours: 108
Hourly: $48.61

2/5 NLHE: $2,200
Hours: 4
Hourly: $550 (LOL)

1/2/5 and 5/5 PLO: $4,905
Hours: 64
Hourly: $79.64

I hope the run-good lasts throughout the year!
Hell I hope you double that measly 550 bucks an hour hourly
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:16 PM   #23912
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Hell I hope you double that measly 550 bucks an hour hourly
Seriously, me, too! When I'm somewhere that has 2/5, they usually have PLO, so that's what I play. Local game is 1/2 or 1/3 with PLO occasionally. Of course, the NLHE usually has a $10 rock or straddle, so it plays pretty big.
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:45 PM   #23913
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Trip bankroll question:
4 full day roll of $7k, I am a decent winner at $1/2 and $2/5 although very small sample of 2/5. I've never played 5/10, but want to give it a shot.
Best plan for 4 days and only $7k? Should I just do the first 2-3k at 5-10 and drop down if I lose it? Try to win 1-2k at lower level the first day or two before even attempting a shot?

Only thing is I don't want to have less than 2k for the last day. Lol. I don't have a gambling bankroll per say, just take money from my job for trips and or home games where I live.

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Old 06-28-2019, 02:26 PM   #23914
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Where are you going?

I'd probably sit in the 2/5 first to get a feel for the room. Keep an eye on the 5/10 tables and see how they are playing. Even ask the brush who might have some casual insight. (I've done this at Aria, but I'm a woman, which makes it easier, and I had played a lot over a few days -- plus I'm there enough that the regulars "know" me.)

Some 5/10 I'm comfortable in; some I'd never sit down at the table. Of course, ditto that with 2/5 in some rooms.

If a table seems incredibly tough, get a table change, even if it means going down in stakes. And stick to your win/loss stop plan!
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:46 PM   #23915
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Where are you going?



I'd probably sit in the 2/5 first to get a feel for the room. Keep an eye on the 5/10 tables and see how they are playing. Even ask the brush who might have some casual insight. (I've done this at Aria, but I'm a woman, which makes it easier, and I had played a lot over a few days -- plus I'm there enough that the regulars "know" me.)



Some 5/10 I'm comfortable in; some I'd never sit down at the table. Of course, ditto that with 2/5 in some rooms.



If a table seems incredibly tough, get a table change, even if it means going down in stakes. And stick to your win/loss stop plan!
Solid advice, thanks!
I'll be in Vegas first 4 days of August, so may be a little slow that time of year. Plan to move around and check out different rooms. Caesars has been my favorite mostly for the $2 comp and really like the dealers, but never see 5-10 going there.

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Old 06-28-2019, 03:20 PM   #23916
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Hey All!

After a 3+ year complete and total hiatus from poker I am back at it as of 5/22/2019.

My question is this, should I keep separate spreadsheets for the different stakes? Or separate the numbers somehow? I have a spreadsheet where I am tracking date, location, stakes, buyin, cashout, hours played, total profit, total hourly rate. I am playing two different stakes, but mainly only playing 1/2 while waiting for a seat on 1/3 or waiting for the game to run. Everything is on one sheet right now. I don't think I'll have a ton of volume this year since I am working as well, maybe I can hit 300-500 hours after a year if I push hard. So is there any point to split them up?

Thanks for any replies!
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:01 PM   #23917
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THJ - I personally am kind of anal when it comes to tracking results and like to know exactly how I am doing at every steak so I would keep track of each seperate - its ez to combine to get total results and it is fun to know (imo) how I am doing at diff levels of play
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:05 PM   #23918
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I consider 1/2 and 1/3 as the same stakes, but that's me. I just don't see much difference.

If you have 2/5, 5/10 or PLO, etc., I'd keep a running total and separate stats -- at least that's what I do. Simple copy/paste for me once everything is set up.
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:15 PM   #23919
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Jav - I understand your point but they are not the same. He sits at 1/2 while waiting to get called for 1/3. Many players when they are waiting for their "regular" game do a lot of very silly stuff at the lower stake. By combining these he will not actually see how he is doing at 1/2. And like I said I am a bit anal.
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:23 PM   #23920
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Hey All!

After a 3+ year complete and total hiatus from poker I am back at it as of 5/22/2019.

My question is this, should I keep separate spreadsheets for the different stakes? Or separate the numbers somehow? I have a spreadsheet where I am tracking date, location, stakes, buyin, cashout, hours played, total profit, total hourly rate. I am playing two different stakes, but mainly only playing 1/2 while waiting for a seat on 1/3 or waiting for the game to run. Everything is on one sheet right now. I don't think I'll have a ton of volume this year since I am working as well, maybe I can hit 300-500 hours after a year if I push hard. So is there any point to split them up?

Thanks for any replies!
Obviously do whatever you want to get whatever you want to accomplish out of it, but seems like a no-brainer to separate by steaks (that can always be easily combined later for full results).

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Old 07-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #23921
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Losses bigger than Wins?

Is it normal for your average losing session to be a significantly bigger loss than an average winning session? I am fairly new to casino poker and have been seriously tracking my results this year. So far I’ve played 58 sessions covering 453 hours. My 17 losing sessions averaged a loss of $450 while my winning sessions averaged a win of $335. Is this normal, just a small sample size occurrence or should I be looking for a flaw in my game that caused this? I am a fairly tight player and in looking back I have often suffered big losses when I have a good hand that calls off better.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.
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Old 07-01-2019, 03:30 PM   #23922
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Welcome to the forum. I moved your post into our omnibus thread on such things. Right now your stats don't suggest much to me, except that you might be chasing losses when down, but that's just a guess.

That said, if you come from an online background, you might be calling river bets too light for live. Most live Vs are pretty passive OTR, so you should rarely be calling river raise without the near nuts, and should limit your river calls to bluff catching. Vs are rarely betting river for thin value, so unless you think they are bluffing or that your holding can beat what they think of as fat value, just fold river.
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Old 07-01-2019, 04:10 PM   #23923
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Jav - I understand your point but they are not the same. He sits at 1/2 while waiting to get called for 1/3. Many players when they are waiting for their "regular" game do a lot of very silly stuff at the lower stake. By combining these he will not actually see how he is doing at 1/2. And like I said I am a bit anal.
Wow, I didn't realize there were casinos with 1/2 and 1/3. I don't play those stakes often in casinos, though (usually PLO or 2/5). My "home" game has 1/2 some nights and 1/3 other nights.
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Old 07-01-2019, 04:48 PM   #23924
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Hey All!

After a 3+ year complete and total hiatus from poker I am back at it as of 5/22/2019.

My question is this, should I keep separate spreadsheets for the different stakes? Or separate the numbers somehow? I have a spreadsheet where I am tracking date, location, stakes, buyin, cashout, hours played, total profit, total hourly rate. I am playing two different stakes, but mainly only playing 1/2 while waiting for a seat on 1/3 or waiting for the game to run. Everything is on one sheet right now. I don't think I'll have a ton of volume this year since I am working as well, maybe I can hit 300-500 hours after a year if I push hard. So is there any point to split them up?

Thanks for any replies!
I don't see the need to have separate files for this. You already have stakes as a column in your sheet. With a few google searches you can add a few more columns if you want to see hourly rates for each individual stake as well as overall hourly rate. I think this effort is far less than maintaining two separate files and then combining them or whatever if you want totals.

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Old 07-01-2019, 08:28 PM   #23925
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Is it normal for your average losing session to be a significantly bigger loss than an average winning session? I am fairly new to casino poker and have been seriously tracking my results this year. So far I’ve played 58 sessions covering 453 hours. My 17 losing sessions averaged a loss of $450 while my winning sessions averaged a win of $335. Is this normal, just a small sample size occurrence or should I be looking for a flaw in my game that caused this? I am a fairly tight player and in looking back I have often suffered big losses when I have a good hand that calls off better.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.
No, this is not normal. It should be the other way around. Possibly you are playing too many big pots with medium holdings. Make sure you are controlling pot size the best you can, big hands=big pots, top pair hands=smaller/medium size pots.
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