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Old 03-29-2019, 04:45 PM   #23401
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I've only heard of maybe 2 local robberies in 10 years or so of playing. And I'm assuming that once a game gets rolled you're never playing there again.
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:12 AM   #23402
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Yea if I got robbed Iím not counting it toward my winrate lol. I also donít count all the damn blind flips I do with recs, but thatís probably because Iíve still yet to win one.
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Old 03-30-2019, 12:43 PM   #23403
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Can you deduct a robbery on your taxes? File this under "things I hope I never have to worry about".

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Old 03-31-2019, 08:34 PM   #23404
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Hi all,

Iím very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later

Over 850 hours of 1/3 Iím winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)

Over the last 750 hours of th 850 Iím winning 6bb/hr (this is what Iím winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)

Thoughts on this overall?
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Old 03-31-2019, 08:36 PM   #23405
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Better than 98% of 1/3 players I would imagine.
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Old 03-31-2019, 08:57 PM   #23406
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Better than 98% of 1/3 players I would imagine.
Also I should add in my game is 5 dollar max rake and 2 dollar promo drop.

My win rate is obviously the net I have made (minus the rake, drop, tips for dealers/servers)
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:05 PM   #23407
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Also I should add in my game is 5 dollar max rake and 2 dollar promo drop.


I just crossed 1k hours of $1/3 NLHE and am at $17.73/hr in casinos that are mostly $5 +$2 as well. This is since May of 2014.
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:05 AM   #23408
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Hi all,



Iím very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later



Over 850 hours of 1/3 Iím winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)



Over the last 750 hours of th 850 Iím winning 6bb/hr (this is what Iím winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)



Thoughts on this overall?
Not bad but hard to evaluate without knowing strength of player pool. FTR It's hard to win 10bb+/hr in high rake games like that though so you're doing pretty well. Also how much you tip has a higher effect the lower the game, so if you are tipping on the high side just be aware that can take 1 or 2 BB per hour off your winrate.

How do YOU think you're doing? Aggregating data and looking at your winrate is just one way of evaluating yourself, and not really the best IMO without huge amounts of data. Are you usually the best player at your table? Do you find yourself making blunders? Do you review your hands and determine optimal plays? You should be doing this regardless whether you win or not, any time you have a tough decision and also review some seemingly easily decisions now and then in order to plug leaks.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:35 AM   #23409
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I share his player pool and I find it to be tougher than average. I'd be surprised if anyone made 10bbs/hr in that game long term. The 2/5 game plays like 5/T+ typically. Many, perhaps even most, of the whales are Omaha degens.

That said, given your weekend heavy hours, I bet there is room for growth still if you plug leaks. I've started to mix in PLO. Maybe every 25-30 percent of sessions. I can't get the hours in anymore to switch to it full time tho, it would just be too hard to converge on EV within a reasonable time period. So I compromise this way.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:17 AM   #23410
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I share his player pool and I find it to be tougher than average. I'd be surprised if anyone made 10bbs/hr in that game long term. The 2/5 game plays like 5/T+ typically. Many, perhaps even most, of the whales are Omaha degens.

That said, given your weekend heavy hours, I bet there is room for growth still if you plug leaks. I've started to mix in PLO. Maybe every 25-30 percent of sessions. I can't get the hours in anymore to switch to it full time tho, it would just be too hard to converge on EV within a reasonable time period. So I compromise this way.
Thank you cannabusto for ur input!

Yeah I feel table selecting is so vital in this pool as finding a great table will have the most effect on ur winrate
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:28 AM   #23411
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Hi all,

Iím very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later

Over 850 hours of 1/3 Iím winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)

Over the last 750 hours of th 850 Iím winning 6bb/hr (this is what Iím winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)

Thoughts on this overall?
Congrats, imo.

Gyou'relikelydoingbetterthanmostinyourpool,gogogo, imoG
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:07 PM   #23412
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Agree with GG. Very solid IMO.
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Old 04-01-2019, 05:52 PM   #23413
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Hi all,

I started playing on ACR 0.25/0.5 on my friend's account (I cannot create one for some reason, perhaps because I am in Maryland) and am making good money, $100 so far. What is a fair deal for me in terms of % of my winnings to keep? I.e., what is the privilege of using his account worth? (It's also on his buy in.)

My other friend, who is not a poker player, thought I should keep 100% of my winnings.

Thanks,
DT

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:00 PM   #23414
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Hi everyone,

Just out of curiosity....

If I’m beating 1/3 over a ~800-900 hour sample size for between 5-6bb/hr with a 7 dollar total rake and jackpot drop what is a rough estimate on how I would do in a typical 2/5 game with 100bb stacks (like at the bellagio) over a large sample

Thank you all So much
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:13 PM   #23415
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Hi everyone,

Just out of curiosity....

If Iím beating 1/3 over a ~800-900 hour sample size for between 5-6bb/hr with a 7 dollar total rake and jackpot drop what is a rough estimate on how I would do in a typical 2/5 game with 100bb stacks (like at the bellagio) over a large sample

Thank you all So much
You're likely the only one who would have a handle on this guesstimate, and the only way would be to play in the game and see how it compares to your game.

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:19 PM   #23416
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Hi everyone,

Just out of curiosity....

If Iím beating 1/3 over a ~800-900 hour sample size for between 5-6bb/hr with a 7 dollar total rake and jackpot drop what is a rough estimate on how I would do in a typical 2/5 game with 100bb stacks (like at the bellagio) over a large sample

Thank you all So much
Impossible to estimate IMO. It's hard to know how the two games differ. Moving up will also require adjustments. Not sure where your WR is coming from and how that will translate at higher stakes. Bellagio 2/5 plays smaller than many though with 500 max buy last I was there so the money gap to that game may not be as steep. The skill gap is harder to estimate. Your WR at your local 1/3 indicates to me that you have the potential to make the adjustments and beat a larger game but potential can take months of hard work or more to realize. For me it took about 250 hours before I was break even at 2/5 (as a rec player only shot taking this spanned a couple years).
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:20 PM   #23417
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Hi all,

I started playing on ACR 0.25/0.5 on my friend's account (I cannot create one for some reason, perhaps because I am in Maryland) and am making good money, $100 so far. What is a fair deal for me in terms of % of my winnings to keep? I.e., what is the privilege of using his account worth? (It's also on his buy in.)

My other friend, who is not a poker player, thought I should keep 100% of my winnings.

Thanks,
DT


so itís his money and his account and you should keep 100% of the winnings?
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:22 PM   #23418
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Hi all,

I started playing on ACR 0.25/0.5 on my friend's account (I cannot create one for some reason, perhaps because I am in Maryland) and am making good money, $100 so far. What is a fair deal for me in terms of % of my winnings to keep? I.e., what is the privilege of using his account worth? (It's also on his buy in.)

My other friend, who is not a poker player, thought I should keep 100% of my winnings.

Thanks,
DT
Good question. I wouldn't feel right keeping 100%. Beating the rake is tough enough though. Am I greedy if I only split it 95/5?

What if you lose money. Do you owe him or is it a stake?
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:22 PM   #23419
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so itís his money and his account and you should keep 100% of the winnings?
Yeah, but it's not a typical staking arrangement in that I can't afford to play; I simply don't have access to this site. I thought perhaps giving him the initial buy in ($25) and then giving him 25% of whatever I win as a user's fee?
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:25 PM   #23420
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Yeah, but it's not a typical staking arrangement in that I can't afford to play; I simply don't have access to this site. I thought perhaps giving him the initial buy in ($25) and then giving him 25% of whatever I win as a user's fee?
This is super generous IMO. He has nothing to lose. Anyone want to use my account in this manner? LOL
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:04 PM   #23421
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and will you compensate him if he loses his account and all funds if the account sharing gets discovered?
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:06 PM   #23422
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Yeah was gonna say thatís technically against the rules and could get funds confiscated. Probably not a good idea to discuss it. Just stick with sites you can play on, which idk what is banned where.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:45 PM   #23423
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I didn’t know about that rule. And no he doesn’t expect me to pay if I lose.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:40 PM   #23424
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Also I should add in my game is 5 dollar max rake and 2 dollar promo drop.

My win rate is obviously the net I have made (minus the rake, drop, tips for dealers/servers)
Where are you playing 1/3 with a $2 promo drop? Venetian? If so is it worth the $2 they take on a $10 pot compared to playing 1/3 at Bellagio or Aria with no promo drop?
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:43 AM   #23425
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$2 promo drop is a great thing as long as it's not an insanely high variance promo like a BBJ or royal flush jackpot, etc. All of the money is supposed to come back to players so it's not really rake, and depending on the promo the drop is even likely to be +EV for you because tighter hand ranges are going to have higher promo EV generally. The right kind of promos also draw in fish, and promos make people play worse (like checking down sets for high hands)
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