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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

03-28-2019 , 07:14 AM
None of those rules exists at Hard Rock Hollywood, so clearly its not a Hard Rock issue. They are some stupid rules that someone at HR Tampa made up to go along with the other stupid things I mentioned a few weeks ago....like them not allowing you to play, or even get on the waiting list, without showing your ID.
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03-28-2019 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
None of those rules exists at Hard Rock Hollywood, so clearly its not a Hard Rock issue. They are some stupid rules that someone at HR Tampa made up to go along with the other stupid things I mentioned a few weeks ago....like them not allowing you to play, or even get on the waiting list, without showing your ID.
We playing today Mike ?
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03-28-2019 , 07:36 AM
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We playing today Mike ?
Uh, do we know each other? Ill be playing but not at HR. You?
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03-28-2019 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
None of those rules exists at Hard Rock Hollywood, so clearly its not a Hard Rock issue. They are some stupid rules that someone at HR Tampa made up to go along with the other stupid things I mentioned a few weeks ago....like them not allowing you to play, or even get on the waiting list, without showing your ID.
Yeah I'm aware of that bedreg and I are Tampa regs. When he said "the hard rock" he meant SHRT which I guess was not made explicit.

/derail
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03-28-2019 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
Yeah I'm aware of that bedreg and I are Tampa regs. When he said "the hard rock" he meant SHRT which I guess was not made explicit.

/derail
Yeah, I was just pointing out how arbitrary some room's rules are. You would think that the rules at all HR properties, especially in the same state, would be the same.
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03-28-2019 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
Yeah I'm aware of that bedreg and I are Tampa regs. When he said "the hard rock" he meant SHRT which I guess was not made explicit.

/derail
My husband and I were just at Seminole HR Tampa, and I couldn't give him cash at the table when he busted! Ridiculous. We had to get up and "hide" the transaction away from the table.

I've heard it's the most profitable casino in the U.S. and one of the best poker rooms, but some of the rules are nuts.

Last edited by Javanewt; 03-28-2019 at 09:41 AM.
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03-29-2019 , 04:09 AM
It's a stupid rule to most, but the casinos/card rooms are just protecting themselves from being a third party in a "money laundering" situation which is of course what all couples are doing at the table. /s

Though I have no doubt there have been times where it is happening.

It's their way of keeping themselves out of that one in a million bad situation.
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03-29-2019 , 12:32 PM
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It's a stupid rule to most, but the casinos/card rooms are just protecting themselves from being a third party in a "money laundering" situation which is of course what all couples are doing at the table. /s

Though I have no doubt there have been times where it is happening.

It's their way of keeping themselves out of that one in a million bad situation.
Yeah, my casino has started calling the front desk to confirm you're playing in a larger game if you buy in for like $2000. It's pretty silly
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03-29-2019 , 01:48 PM
So here's a question I haven't really seen here before ...

If you're playing in an underground home game and the game gets robbed .... how do you record that?

I'm thinking estimated stack for session win/loss as if you'd cashed out, then a separate game entry for the loss of those chips + anything else that got taken.

Kind of like the big BBJ payouts or other promo wins so you can include or ignore it depending on what analysis you're doing.
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03-29-2019 , 02:21 PM
I sure hope that's a hypothetical question...
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03-29-2019 , 02:25 PM
Yes. Hypothetical.

I've heard of a few games getting rolled and a couple of my poker friends and I were talking about it the other day.
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03-29-2019 , 04:33 PM
Lol, tallying this sort of info would be like the least of my worries (surviving robbery and avoiding these games would top that list), but your method (estimate win/loss at that point plus subtract in BBJ winnings) is exactly what I would do.

If it is happening enough where this will affect your winrate greatly either way then you've got bigger problems, imo.

GcluelessrobberywinratenoobG
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03-29-2019 , 04:35 PM
Treat it at a 1 time non repeating event just like BBJ or other promo.

Also dont play in that game.
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03-29-2019 , 04:45 PM
I've only heard of maybe 2 local robberies in 10 years or so of playing. And I'm assuming that once a game gets rolled you're never playing there again.
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03-30-2019 , 08:12 AM
Yea if I got robbed I’m not counting it toward my winrate lol. I also don’t count all the damn blind flips I do with recs, but that’s probably because I’ve still yet to win one.
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03-30-2019 , 12:43 PM
Can you deduct a robbery on your taxes? File this under "things I hope I never have to worry about".

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03-31-2019 , 08:34 PM
Hi all,

I’m very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later

Over 850 hours of 1/3 I’m winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)

Over the last 750 hours of th 850 I’m winning 6bb/hr (this is what I’m winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)

Thoughts on this overall?
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03-31-2019 , 08:36 PM
Better than 98% of 1/3 players I would imagine.
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03-31-2019 , 08:57 PM
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Better than 98% of 1/3 players I would imagine.
Also I should add in my game is 5 dollar max rake and 2 dollar promo drop.

My win rate is obviously the net I have made (minus the rake, drop, tips for dealers/servers)
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03-31-2019 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32
Also I should add in my game is 5 dollar max rake and 2 dollar promo drop.


I just crossed 1k hours of $1/3 NLHE and am at $17.73/hr in casinos that are mostly $5 +$2 as well. This is since May of 2014.
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04-01-2019 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard32
Hi all,



I’m very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later



Over 850 hours of 1/3 I’m winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)



Over the last 750 hours of th 850 I’m winning 6bb/hr (this is what I’m winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)



Thoughts on this overall?
Not bad but hard to evaluate without knowing strength of player pool. FTR It's hard to win 10bb+/hr in high rake games like that though so you're doing pretty well. Also how much you tip has a higher effect the lower the game, so if you are tipping on the high side just be aware that can take 1 or 2 BB per hour off your winrate.

How do YOU think you're doing? Aggregating data and looking at your winrate is just one way of evaluating yourself, and not really the best IMO without huge amounts of data. Are you usually the best player at your table? Do you find yourself making blunders? Do you review your hands and determine optimal plays? You should be doing this regardless whether you win or not, any time you have a tough decision and also review some seemingly easily decisions now and then in order to plug leaks.
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04-01-2019 , 10:35 AM
I share his player pool and I find it to be tougher than average. I'd be surprised if anyone made 10bbs/hr in that game long term. The 2/5 game plays like 5/T+ typically. Many, perhaps even most, of the whales are Omaha degens.

That said, given your weekend heavy hours, I bet there is room for growth still if you plug leaks. I've started to mix in PLO. Maybe every 25-30 percent of sessions. I can't get the hours in anymore to switch to it full time tho, it would just be too hard to converge on EV within a reasonable time period. So I compromise this way.
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04-01-2019 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
I share his player pool and I find it to be tougher than average. I'd be surprised if anyone made 10bbs/hr in that game long term. The 2/5 game plays like 5/T+ typically. Many, perhaps even most, of the whales are Omaha degens.

That said, given your weekend heavy hours, I bet there is room for growth still if you plug leaks. I've started to mix in PLO. Maybe every 25-30 percent of sessions. I can't get the hours in anymore to switch to it full time tho, it would just be too hard to converge on EV within a reasonable time period. So I compromise this way.
Thank you cannabusto for ur input!

Yeah I feel table selecting is so vital in this pool as finding a great table will have the most effect on ur winrate
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04-01-2019 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard32
Hi all,

I’m very close to reaching 1k hours live and will post more later

Over 850 hours of 1/3 I’m winning 5bb/hr (this was me shortstacking the first 100 hours roughly)

Over the last 750 hours of th 850 I’m winning 6bb/hr (this is what I’m winning after buying in for 300 which is the max)

Thoughts on this overall?
Congrats, imo.

Gyou'relikelydoingbetterthanmostinyourpool,gogogo, imoG
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04-01-2019 , 02:07 PM
Agree with GG. Very solid IMO.
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