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12-31-2018 , 09:03 PM
Nice job at the tables Homey and Homer!

Nice job away from them Diz! Believe I have heard about that T/T game, sometimes tough, sometimes juicy. Pretty small sample, easily vulnerable to a bad run. Better luck in '19!
12-31-2018 , 09:16 PM



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Thoughts on my year ?

Played exclusively 1/3 as a rec

Not as good as I wanted but I’m improving
12-31-2018 , 09:21 PM
Sorry guys trying to figure out this picture stuff

Winning $13.02 over the course of 700 hours at 1/3 and my last 612 hours winning 17.08

Thoughts overall?
12-31-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32 Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Sorry guys trying to figure out this picture stuff

Winning $13.02 over the course of 700 hours at 1/3 and my last 612 hours winning 17.08

Thoughts overall?
Looks good. What’s your standard deviation?
12-31-2018 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Looks good. What’s your standard deviation?
Not
High enough hahahaha
12-31-2018 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Looks good. What’s your standard deviation?
But it’s really $111.28/hr haha
01-01-2019 , 04:18 AM
Assume a player plays 700-1200 hours a year in a 200bb cap game where everyone buys in for 200bb. Also assume that he is a pretty decent winner (~5-8bb/hr). What percentage of years will be losing years? Should he ever have a breakeven/losing year?
01-01-2019 , 04:52 AM
If we assume all you stated is true, the probability of having a losing year is ~2.8% at the given number of hours.
01-01-2019 , 11:20 AM
Please post this question in our official Winrates Bankroll and Finance thread. I'd move it for you, but I can't do that from my phone.

Never mind. I'm on my computer now, so I'll move it. The answer depends on said player's standard deviation, though.

Last edited by Garick; 01-01-2019 at 02:07 PM.
01-01-2019 , 12:25 PM
Here are my 2018 $2/$5 NL results. While I feel (as most of you do) my game has improved dramatically, these results are mediocre compared to the crushers. My volume is predominantly in a Northeast (US) room.

This is my first full year of play since retiring in 2017. I play part-time as a choice. Strangest data point is the session win rate, <.500, typically >.600. Alternatively, I had 9 winning months.

My VPIP was 18, raising ~2/3 of those pot entries. I have successfully widened my 3-bet range and tightened the sc/small pps part of my calling range.

GL to all in 2019!

Hours $W/(L) Hourly
649.25 $12,215 $18.81

Sessions Won Lost
138 66 72

Months Won Lost
12 9 3
01-01-2019 , 12:29 PM
^^^^^^ That's a solid year, well done. How do you track your VPIP?
01-01-2019 , 12:50 PM
Happy New Year all! I'll add my 2018 results to the pile. Good year for me but definitely room to improve. I don't consider myself top tier or a crusher at my typical tables. I usually feel like I rank about 3rd out of 9 at a full 2/5 table. At 1/2 I do feel top tier but rarely played games smaller than 2/5 other than when waiting for a seat. Accidentally sat 2/5/10 once, they told me it was 2/5. Started the year off on fire and fell back to earth a bit. We'll see if I can maintain this next year. Anyway, here goes:

Game - Hours - $ - BB/hr
1/2 - 23:08 - $2,347 - 50.72 (includes $500 High hand)
1/3 - 12:07 - $1,489 - 40.96
1/3/6 - 0:35 - $70 - 20.00
2/5 - 219:12 - $12,741 - 11.62
2/5/10 - 0:20 - $11 - 3.30
Total - 255:22 - $16,658 - 15.59 ($65.23/hr)
Total - Winning Sessions 65, Losing Sessions 23, Break Even Sessions 3
Total - Longest win streak 14, Longest loss streak 5

Giraffe of all games combined.


Last edited by c0rnBr34d; 01-01-2019 at 12:58 PM.
01-01-2019 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32 Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
But it’s really $111.28/hr haha
Yeah, that's very low. That tells me that you are likely passing up on a lot if +EV spots.
01-01-2019 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Yeah, that's very low. That tells me that you are likely passing up on a lot if +EV spots.

How can u assume that? It’s probably true just curious
01-01-2019 , 01:56 PM
Similar life story this year to dizzy - new house, newly single, increased workload and a serious shoulder injury limited my hours. Mostly $2/5 NLHE with a smattering of $1/2 (ran at expectation more or less), got smashed in one session of PLO and and one session of $5/10 NLHE which affected the final numbers.

Thankfully the fine people of LLSNL allowed me to crush the 1/1 game at the meetup in June. Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
01-01-2019 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Yeah, that's very low. That tells me that you are likely passing up on a lot if +EV spots.
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Originally Posted by Richard32 Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
How can u assume that? It’s probably true just curious
Because you have to be folding a lot of winners to so rarely be calling with losers and also are likely not getting a lot of money in with the best of it with cards to come. If you were, you'd experience larger swings, because you'd win more on average but sometimes get sucked out on.
01-01-2019 , 02:27 PM


Since May 2017. This year starts at hour 669. Year was rough. I think I lost my poker innocence this year. Made me realize I'd be much happier with an actual job when I graduate. So that's the goal. Find a job and play 2/5 on the side. Maybe 5/10 eventually if I advance myself in my career and get good enough to be +EV at that level.

Profit: $11690
Hours: 795.5
Hourly: $14.70

All 1/2 and 1/3 except for a single 2/5 session. 90% of the volume is in Vegas.
01-01-2019 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Because you have to be folding a lot of winners to so rarely be calling with losers and also are likely not getting a lot of money in with the best of it with cards to come. If you were, you'd experience larger swings, because you'd win more on average but sometimes get sucked out on.
Ah okay thank you that makes sense! I appreciate the explanation

So overall you think I “should” be winning more? I mean I’m at like 4.5bb/hr but definitely want to improve

I Think the biggest “downswing” I went on was like 4 but ins
01-01-2019 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat Winrates, bankrolls, and finances


Since May 2017. This year starts at hour 669. Year was rough. I think I lost my poker innocence this year. Made me realize I'd be much happier with an actual job when I graduate. So that's the goal. Find a job and play 2/5 on the side. Maybe 5/10 eventually if I advance myself in my career and get good enough to be +EV at that level.

Profit: $11690
Hours: 795.5
Hourly: $14.70

All 1/2 and 1/3 except for a single 2/5 session. 90% of the volume is in Vegas.

Thanks for sharing! Very similar to my results haha
01-01-2019 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Yeah, that's very low. That tells me that you are likely passing up on a lot if +EV spots.
Do i get this wrong or do you mean the standard deviation of 111$/h is low?
Do you mean for 1/3?
01-01-2019 , 03:14 PM
Yes. That is very low. Anything under 50bbs/hr is low. 75 seems to be about average for players winning at a good clip, and over 100 si pretty common.
01-01-2019 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Yes. That is very low. Anything under 50bbs/hr is low. 75 seems to be about average for players winning at a good clip, and over 100 si pretty common.
Maybe my poker tracker app is wrong idk? Or maybe it’s right

Is there an explanation as to why I’m winning?
01-01-2019 , 03:46 PM
Yeah. You are playing pretty nitty, but solid poker, most likely. That will win some, but wont crush, generally speaking.
01-01-2019 , 04:05 PM
OK. Im just asking because a few weeks ago i asked here about my sd which is 121,25€/h at the moment. Winning 24€/h over 676h. I play(ed) mainly 1/2 but lately more 1/3 because action is getting better.

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575h since april , 22,93€/h
SD 118,67/h

What does my SD tell us?
Is it normal?
you answered...

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Suyupa, it's a bit on the high side for a winning player, but not outrageously so. Sounds like you play in a pretty wild game.
Im just a little bit confused now. Is my 60bb SD a bit high or is it a bit too low and should be between 75 and 100bb?
Or are you referring specifically to 1/3?

Not trying to change my game, just curious.
01-01-2019 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
Yeah. You are playing pretty nitty, but solid poker, most likely. That will win some, but wont crush, generally speaking.
I play in the same room. My SD is a bit over 50 bbs over a similar sample size. My winrate is similar to Richard's over the sample, but I experienced a 9 buy-in downswing.

I've played in this room for years. I believe the player pool is a bit more solid on average. For comparison, I used to grind at Parx, have played plenty in Vegas/AC, and have played several times in MD/DC.

      
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