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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

10-07-2018 , 09:25 AM
Anyone who's played in multiple currencies, how do you record it in your trackers? The majority of my play is in Ł but I'm playing some $ games ATM and my poker income doesnt allow for multiple currencies (not unsurprisingly)

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10-07-2018 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Anyone who's played in multiple currencies, how do you record it in your trackers? The majority of my play is in Ł but I'm playing some $ games ATM and my poker income doesnt allow for multiple currencies (not unsurprisingly)

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Use a tracker that supports multiple currencies? Avoid unsupported crap like poker income?
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10-07-2018 , 10:00 AM
Cant you just manually convert to dollars and enter it that way?

You're playing 50/100 in whatever currency it is.
That translates to 1/2 in American dollars.
You won 10000
Thats 100BBs
Enter at a $200 win at 1/2
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10-07-2018 , 10:24 AM
Probably depends if you plan to keep money in the non-standard currency. If no, then record it at the going exchange rate. If yes, bite the bullet and get a new app. If no, just translate into your normal currency and call it a day.
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10-07-2018 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Anyone who's played in multiple currencies, how do you record it in your trackers? The majority of my play is in Ł but I'm playing some $ games ATM and my poker income doesnt allow for multiple currencies (not unsurprisingly)

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Run good app
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10-07-2018 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Is it agreed upon here that vegas is probably the worst place to play poker for 1/2 and 1/3 and 2/5nl because its infested with lot of 2/5nl pros?


I posted this from a vegas thread about quality of game and would like if anyone has input on it.


Is it true the games in vegas are very bad now compared to say 2012? Back then when i played there for a few months, i mostly played 1/3 at wynn and caesars. The games there were damn soft at caesars. Very rarely would there be say more than 2 players who i say are competent... if they were they were tight. The wynn i recalled had quite a number of regs at 2/5 i notice and some played 1/3 as well waiting for 2/5. The players at wynn were particularly stronger than anywhere else at 1/3... but again this was back in 2012.


Are the games in vegas pretty bad now even at say 1/2 and 1/3 now? I have to imagine 2/5 is probably mostly regs during the day and at night, its probably half regs? Of course it could be bad reg as well but any reg at the table isn't good for you. The thing is it seemed like most poker pros in vegas are 2/5 pros right? Since if you check bravo, seems like very few 5/10 games if any and if so, its max 1 table.

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For what it's worth, I can give the viewpoint of a recreational player.
I play in New England. Was in Vegas in early September for only 2nd time. Only played 1/2. I ran bad but none the less, I found the play pretty bad.
I played at the Tropicana, Golden Nugget, Excalibur, Mandalay Bay, Planet Hollywood, and MGM.
The only Poker room that had, what seemed obvious, competent regulars was MHM and Mandalay.
Games were extremely loose and passive pre flop.
Lot's of limping and over limpimg. And, when people raised, they usually raised much smaller than what I'm used to. Like ridiculous amounts like 4,5, or 6. Passive post flop play, with a few exceptions, if course.
People calling down big river bets with 1 pair hands.
Long story short, I found the quality of play, overall pretty bad.
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10-07-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mdelore
You're not Penske material.

We'll just see about that... Ta-ta, Tut-tel!
lol! Great reference … I haven't seen that one in ages.
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10-08-2018 , 02:05 AM
I'm curious how much money one could make at these levels if one were to exploit these stakes to the max. I'm averaging $37/hr since journaling my sessions around 100 hours ago. I know this is a tiny sample size but one day I plan on playing poker full-time indefinitely. I believe there's a good chance I already have what it takes, but I also realize I'm still swimming in the proverbial kiddie pool. Crushing 1/2 over such a tiny sample size isn't anything to boast about.

I'm top 100 in the state as a double A pool player after just 3 years of training and practice. I've won $1000s gambling in bars and poolhalls. I'm an excellent bowler (278 high score), chess player, top tri-athlete in high school, ace pitcher, starting runningback, best 3pt shooter (23 3s in a row once). Anyway all of that to say I'm naturally great at things. And the poker pro that made the list on this forum for other aspiring pros claims that part of someone's potential upside has to do with their natural ability to be good at stuff.

I haven't had any real heaters outside of cashing 5 out of 6 25p-35p live tournaments back in May. But I haven't factored any of those winnings into the $37/hr.

I'm 90% confident that through proper bankroll management I can average $30/hr, as I get the feeling I'm already the best player at whatever table I sit down at, but I'm also very introspective. Thoughts?

Last edited by daygrindmike; 10-08-2018 at 02:14 AM.
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10-08-2018 , 02:08 AM
The most you can make at LLSNL is about 10bb/hr, which is $20/hr at 1/2 live.

Anyone who's making more than that is just on a short-term heater. Variance will catch up to them eventually.

Edit: maybe $30/hr is possible at 1/2 if you bumhunt and only play at the most optimal time of day and table select well, but this would make it hard for you to get good volume in. Eventually, you'd be given a mediocre table and you'll just play it because you want more volume, which would bring down your hourly.
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10-08-2018 , 02:18 AM
It all depends on the games you play in. What's achievable in a 1/2 500bb max buy in where everyone max buys is vastly different to a 100bb cap.
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10-08-2018 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by daygrindmike
I'm curious how much money one could make at these levels if one were to exploit these stakes to the max. I'm averaging $37/hr since journaling my sessions around 100 hours ago. I know this is a tiny sample size but one day I plan on playing poker full-time indefinitely. I believe there's a good chance I already have what it takes, but I also realize I'm still swimming in the proverbial kiddie pool. Crushing 1/2 over such a tiny sample size isn't anything to boast about.

I'm top 100 in the state as a double A pool player after just 3 years of training and practice. I've won $1000s gambling in bars and poolhalls. I'm an excellent bowler (278 high score), chess player, top tri-athlete in high school, ace pitcher, starting runningback, best 3pt shooter (23 3s in a row once). Anyway all of that to say I'm naturally great at things. And the poker pro that made the list on this forum for other aspiring pros claims that part of someone's potential upside has to do with their natural ability to be good at stuff.

I haven't had any real heaters outside of cashing 5 out of 6 25p-35p live tournaments back in May. But I haven't factored any of those winnings into the $37/hr.

I'm 90% confident that through proper bankroll management I can average $30/hr, as I get the feeling I'm already the best player at whatever table I sit down at, but I'm also very introspective. Thoughts?

it sounds like with your natural talent and ability and all the success you've had in your life to date, you shouldn't waste your time at 1/2 but should get a stake (or a loan) and move up to play 5/10 and 10/25 immediately

maybe go to the staking forum and post your results as a first step?
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10-08-2018 , 02:25 AM
I'm fairly confident I haven't been on a heater during these last 100 hours. In fact if anything I experienced a slight downswing the way I've won and lost pots. My biggest heater was turning $100 into $524 in about 90 minutes one night. I lost 6 buyins straight once, 4 buyins straight twice, and the rest of my losing sessions were $100-$200. I always buyin for $100. I've never won anything more than $650 a session, and never won a pot over $450.
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10-08-2018 , 02:31 AM
I know I'd get crushed playing $5/$10. I have no bankroll for $2/$5. I might seem arrogant but I assure you I'm not. I have a very conservative and cautious understanding of my perceived ability as it relates to my actual ability. I compete in many different areas and I'm aware of just how easy it is to fall into the trap of thinking you're better than you really are.
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10-08-2018 , 02:41 AM
Sometimes variance plays out in really subtle ways. It isn't always as clear as just winning flips and running your AA into KK everytime, where you can see that you're running above EV.

Sometimes, variance is just hitting flops. Sometimes it's missing flops in such a way that you can get away cheaply. Sometimes it's turning or rivering a card that's good for your perceived range and allows you to get a bluff through, even if it wasn't good for your specific hand.

You could be running above EV without even realising it.
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10-08-2018 , 03:13 AM
I'm not really convinced its that subtle. All I see is everyone making awful plays and spewing chips and chasing 20% rivers with their stacks, while I play a positional low variance TAG game with 50bbs. Most of my reads and hero calls are spot on. I've even called 2 streets with J high for my whole stack deep in a tournament and won. I make laydowns like AQs the other day raise to $6. Get 3bet preflop to $21 I fold and show the table. He shows QQ.
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10-08-2018 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by daygrindmike
I know I'd get crushed playing $5/$10. I have no bankroll for $2/$5. I might seem arrogant but I assure you I'm not. I have a very conservative and cautious understanding of my perceived ability as it relates to my actual ability. I compete in many different areas and I'm aware of just how easy it is to fall into the trap of thinking you're better than you really are.
Stop short stacking and buy in for the 100bb deep or even the max. Your hourly and winrate will thank you. If your casino doesnt let you, find a new one.
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10-08-2018 , 03:49 AM
Well, I would say it’s time to quit the day job and just go for it.

I mean, you’ve experienced so much in your vast experience of a whole 100 hours of live poker. Obviously you have everything figured out and know what it takes to crush $1/$2. I think you can do even better than $70/hr with the way you’ve described your abilities.

What do you do when you double up your $100 buyin? Because playing 100 BBs is very different from 50. And 200 is even tougher. And 300. And so on.

But, hey, you’re crushing it after 100 hours so by all means move to Vegas and give it a shot. You only live once.
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10-08-2018 , 03:58 AM
No one makes this at 2/5 and very few even at 5/10
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10-08-2018 , 04:37 AM
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Well, I would say it’s time to quit the day job and just go for it.

I mean, you’ve experienced so much in your vast experience of a whole 100 hours of live poker. Obviously you have everything figured out and know what it takes to crush $1/$2. I think you can do even better than $70/hr with the way you’ve described your abilities.

What do you do when you double up your $100 buyin? Because playing 100 BBs is very different from 50. And 200 is even tougher. And 300. And so on.

But, hey, you’re crushing it after 100 hours so by all means move to Vegas and give it a shot. You only live once.
Lul
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10-08-2018 , 04:38 AM
ibelieveyouoweme80k judging by what little I've seen from some hands you've played in your thread history I'm not sure you're really in a place to belittle my interest in going pro. I can already sense that you don't have a lot of upside to your game.
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10-08-2018 , 04:50 AM
If all the small spots go in your favor enough to pay off your blinds, rake/time, tips, etc and once an hour you get it all in for 50 bb as a four to one favorite...you avg $60/hr.

Gl though.
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10-08-2018 , 04:50 AM
Trying to go pro playing 1/2 seems like a bad option to me, especially if you're American (lol taxes).

If you're beating 1/2 for $37 ph playing deep stacked you're likely far above your true EV. Playing short stacked its all but guaranteed.
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10-08-2018 , 05:16 AM
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I fold and show the table.
You are NOT ready to go pro.

This is only 1 of likely 1000 leaks in your game, but it can be the most telling.
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10-08-2018 , 05:20 AM
I'm kinda curious to know what all of you guys average per hour playing? I've actually had plenty of spots where people have taken big pots from me after hitting their 20.5% rivers. I haven't been on any crazy type heaters except for that one day, but I have been through 3-4 downswings, one that was around 6 buyins plus $150 in tournaments.
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10-08-2018 , 05:24 AM
Lol showing hands at 1/2 isn't a leak especially when I oftentimes use it against them.
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