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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Math is math. It’s like gravity. You can’t not be using it. There are some people who may not understand the foundation of why they are doing something (a “feel” player seeing weakness and raising river), but there is still math behind what they are doing (exploitatively overraising your range vs. an exploitable capped range).
I don’t need to know how buoyancy works to take my kayak out, or how lift works to hang glide with squid. But physics and simple math is behind both, and understanding what’s happening will only improve you as a human being.
I don’t even calculate pot odds anymore fwiw.
This is my point. When I semi bluff check raise the flop sensing weakness, Im still using math because I have to calculate the percentage of times I think he will fold combined with the percentage of times I will actually spike the turn and how much money I will make when I hit the turn compared to how much I lose when I miss or bluff off more money later in the hand.
So when people say I dont understand math, or that people successfully playing high stakes understand math better than others, we are really talking about a lot of the same things.
Sure the math guys can tell you the exact pot odds I gave villain on the flop quickly, but I dont think you need to be that precise with the math to succeed, as long as you have a general idea of the concepts. My argument is that the guy who has the best reads and know when to check raise that flop and gets away with it a much higher percentage of the time based on correctly reading villains weakness will do better than the guy who only calls the flop bet because he knows precisely his pot odds.
If a person was clairvoyant and knew villains precise cards he would crush a guy who could do complex math instantly but who's reads where average and he had to play vs a much wider range.
Obviously nobody can see their opponents cards but if you can narrow them down to 2 combos instead of 20 combos, the math gets much easier even for a math donk.