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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

06-14-2018 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Print screen (or windows sniping tool) crop. Save to Imgur.

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06-14-2018 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
In spirit with the new thread title and my own contrarian nature, I must point out I seem to recall doing a LOT of poker math in your PGC thread that you didn't remotely understand. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think you really need to understand poker math that well to crush LLSNL, but realistically you probably comprehend like 10% of poker math.

-JealousHaterOfMike/MathBot
Can you post a graph since you moved to Tampa. I have no doubt that you are a math genius and I am confidant when I say I can read people unlike very few other people can do. Id love to see a graph of a math expert compared to mine.
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06-15-2018 , 01:35 AM
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Beat me to it.
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06-15-2018 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Can you post a graph since you moved to Tampa. I have no doubt that you are a math genius and I am confidant when I say I can read people unlike very few other people can do. Id love to see a graph of a math expert compared to mine.
You know I don't have anywhere close to the hours you do and I'm not challenging your winrate or criticizing your play. Geez, seems your response to anything slightly critical is whipping out the llsnl e-peen graphs.

You are the one who called me a math bot btw. I make no claims to being a math genius. And I think I read people pretty well. It isn't an either/or proposition to know poker math and reading people.

FTR I have like 800ish hrs of 1/2 at ~10BB/hr and 103 hrs of 2/5 at ~16BB/hr. I had the 1/2 uploaded to my phone in poker bankroll tracker but phone bricked about 6 weeks ago and I lost all data. I got a new one but have only uploaded my current 2/5 games. I do have the 1/2 session results written down but don't feel like recreating 80ish sessions for your viewing pleasure. It wouldn't be enough anyway because real crushers need to make 15BB/hr at 1/2 like you do right?

I can upload my 2/5 graph if you want but it's pretty pointless at this stage. Guess you'll just have to wait a bit for a meaningful graph from me.
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06-15-2018 , 08:33 AM
How is everything I say on this site turned into a negative? I said you are a math genius as a compliment and I meant it. SMH
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06-15-2018 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Print screen (or windows sniping tool) crop. Save to Imgur.
I saved to Imgur, then copied Imgur URL in the "Insert Image" icon, but image does not appear, only <IMG>Imgur URL<IMG>.
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06-15-2018 , 09:52 AM
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I saved to Imgur, then copied Imgur URL in the "Insert Image" icon, but image does not appear, only <IMG>Imgur URL<IMG>.
copy the forum/bbcode link from imgur and paste it directly into your post instead of using the insert image tool
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06-15-2018 , 10:08 AM
or you can copy the imgur dot com slash Kdjednf from your browser, make the address i dot imgur dot com slash Dicdjf6s dot jpg, and put that in the IMG tags
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06-15-2018 , 12:26 PM
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copy the forum/bbcode link from imgur and paste it directly into your post instead of using the insert image tool
Not yet working. Tried pasting imgur link directly using the Insert Link icon, then tried directly into the post. Didn't appear to be a hot link, showed url tags. I don't know if it will after submitting post.
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06-15-2018 , 01:29 PM
In a gallery view, right click on the image on imgur and select "copy image location" and you'll get a link that looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/p57kF2a.jpg

If you click this forum's "insert image" and paste that link in, it'll work:

If you're signed in and viewing the image itself, there's a link on the side for "BBCode (message boards & forums)" that'll look like: [***]https://i.imgur.com/zjKBq3V.jpg[/***] where the *** is "img". Copy and paste that link and it'll work like this:

The key thing as far as I can tell is that it needs to be the "i.imgur" link that ends in .jpg. If it's another URL it won't work.
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06-15-2018 , 04:55 PM
Angrist that was much more coherent than my post but same thing lol. To be fair I wrote it hastily before leaving Sheetz
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06-15-2018 , 05:00 PM
Finally attained 1k hours at $2/$5 NL. Retiring last year has given me more time to grab volume. >90% of hours in one Northeast room.

Below is an Excel graph (thx to foz, homey, angrist) showing $000 on y-axis, hours on x-axis and BB/Hr. on y2-axis. Here is summary:
Hours: 1,000.4
$000: 28.45
BB/Hr: 5.7

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06-15-2018 , 05:04 PM
Nice results samo. Very grinder-esque.
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06-15-2018 , 05:48 PM
I haz the confused looking at the giraffe (it's plotting the running bb/hr?) but still nice overall results.

Gbiggestbargwasthe"retiring"part,congrats,imoG
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06-15-2018 , 06:09 PM
Thx buz … grinderesque is a perfect descript.

Thx GG … yup, the line reps the BB/Hr, while the bars rep the $000.
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06-15-2018 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
How is everything I say on this site turned into a negative? I said you are a math genius as a compliment and I meant it. SMH
"I'd love to see the graph of a math genius compared to mine" just sounded really sarcastic since you know I can't produce a comparable graph to yours. Sorry if I read that wrong.
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06-15-2018 , 08:19 PM
congrats Samo - great job
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06-15-2018 , 09:13 PM
I'm offering BBcode coaching for $50/hr PM me.
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06-15-2018 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
"I'd love to see the graph of a math genius compared to mine" just sounded really sarcastic since you know I can't produce a comparable graph to yours. Sorry if I read that wrong.
I dont know what your graph looks like. I have no idea how your results have been. What I meant to say is you are a math genius. I consider myself to be top notch at reading people, situations and betting patterns and exploiting them but nowhere near the math expert you are.....I wanted to compare graphs because I suspect that a player with my skill set will trump a player with your skill set. Math can only get you so far, at least thats my opinion. Of course if you are very good at both, then the sky is the limit.

This is not a knock on you at all. Ive never played with you so I dont know how good at those other things you are. Im just saying that I think someone who from 1-10 is a 3 at poker math and a 9 at reading people and hand reading will do better than a person who is a 9 at poker math and a 3 at reading skills.

The guy who I would consider the best player in S.Florida and is pounding the highest stakes games after being a 1/2 reg just 3 years ago, is not very good at poker math at all, but hes a freak of nature when it comes to reading people. I have a friend who used to stake him at 1/2 and I get to see some of his hand histories and they would blow your mind.
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06-15-2018 , 10:37 PM
Is that the post black friday version of internet players suck?
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06-15-2018 , 10:42 PM
Ike Haxton, Doug Polk, Ben Sulsky seem to do just fine as pure math guys. DNegs and Hellmuth seem to do just fine as pure feel guys. Both styles can be successful.
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06-15-2018 , 10:48 PM
As you move up the stakes, into $10/20, $20/40, and higher, the number of winning players who aren't super strong at the math-aspect of poker quickly dwindles and gets smaller as you move up. Coincidence?

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06-15-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel9861
Ike Haxton, Doug Polk, Ben Sulsky seem to do just fine as pure math guys. DNegs and Hellmuth seem to do just fine as pure feel guys. Both styles can be successful.
Calling Negreanu a purely feel player today isn’t very accurate imo. He’s put a lot of work into the math side of his game and it’s showing in his results as of late. He was playing way above the rim in the SHRB and I expect him to put up some great numbers this series if he continues to play that well. As mentioned, it’s not a coincidence that as you move up in stakes you see less people who are not well tuned to the mathematical fundamentals of the game.
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06-16-2018 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
As you move up the stakes, into $10/20, $20/40, and higher, the number of winning players who aren't super strong at the math-aspect of poker quickly dwindles and gets smaller as you move up. Coincidence?

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That’s because the math guys generally do better in reg vs reg spots while the feel guys are better at maximally exploiting weaker players. As stakes get higher and higher, the number of regs in the game increase while the number of weaker players decrease.
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06-16-2018 , 01:54 AM
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That’s because the math guys generally do better in reg vs reg spots while the feel guys are better at maximally exploiting weaker players. As stakes get higher and higher, the number of regs in the game increase while the number of weaker players decrease.
Until you reach the promised land of 5000/10,000 billionaires with zero maths and worse feels.
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