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Old 02-18-2018, 08:54 PM   #20826
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Hurry tf up and pick the avatar Mike
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:45 AM   #20827
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Hurry tf up and pick the avatar Mike
I have the avatar ready. Im not sure exactly how to get it to GG so he can upload it. I guess I can email it to him? Im waiting for him to respond to a PM.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:15 AM   #20828
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I hope it consists of some OMC and/or nit of the century appropriate needling
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:44 AM   #20829
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I have the avatar ready. Im not sure exactly how to get it to GG so he can upload it. I guess I can email it to him? Im waiting for him to respond to a PM.
Just post it ITT?

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Old 02-20-2018, 06:12 AM   #20830
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I've just hit 1000 hours logged, so I thought I'd post my results. (I last posted at 400 hours iirc.) These go back to January 2016, when I was grinding full-time in Vegas. Now I have a contracting job and play part-time. Most of the hours are 2-5, but there is some 1-2 and 1-3 during a time when that was the biggest stakes available where I lived. There are also a few sessions of 5-10 and one 5/10/25.

I don't like the downward trend in BBs/hour, but I knew my initial win-rate was unsustainable, and also I moved up in stakes. I'd certainly be happy maintaining the 9 BBs/hour win-rate.



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Old 02-20-2018, 06:16 AM   #20831
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:26 AM   #20832
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Bluebassman, if the majority of your hours are 2/5, then how does 9BB/hr = $27/hr?

Seems like more than half of your hours have to be at 1/2 or is my math way off?
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:31 AM   #20833
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Bluebassman, if the majority of your hours are 2/5, then how does 9BB/hr = $27/hr?

Seems like more than half of your hours have to be at 1/2 or is my math way off?
Oh, I think you're right. During the period that I was playing 1-2/1-3, I didn't have a day job, so my sessions were longer. I have more sessions at 2-5 but more hours at 1-2/1-3.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:45 PM   #20834
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Grats on 20 in a row mike!
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:38 PM   #20835
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Grats on 20 in a row mike!
Thx, I lost 3 of the next 4 but only for -$250. The insane run good is gone, but Im not complaining.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:40 PM   #20836
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I would bet heavily against that. My record is 5
Im curious if you have a set amount of pocket buyins?
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:10 PM   #20837
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Im curious if you have a set amount of pocket buyins?
You mean a set amount of money in my pocket? When Im playing 2/5 I normally bring $2000 with me. Lately Ive been playing 5/10 when the occasional game runs so Ive been bringing $3000 with me. I also have quite a few people in the room that will loan me money if I run out, but that's never happened.

I did forget to bring any money with me twice and someone floated me money to play so I didnt have to drive home or to the bank.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:53 AM   #20838
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if someone plays $1-2 NL at a place with NO CAP on the maximum buyin, how much should they buyin for? im sure not buying in more than i have to i usually buyin $100-120. this is a little low since my roll is $13,000 but once u subtract 6 months of living expenses (and take into account this is the lowest my roll has been in 2 yrs) my roll is about as low as u can get.

forget about my situation, im not changing my buyin (unless i start doing $200 instead of $100-120) but how much do MOST of u buyin for? assume that u arent getting any other income and cannot replace it if u lose the whole $13,000 and will be homeless and panhandling if u go busto. and assume that like me, your hourly will run somewhere between $12 and $20 per hour
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:56 AM   #20839
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your question how much more to do with your bankroll then it does the buyin cap.

Obv if you're rolled I'd want to cover the table almost always. Maybe not very beginning of session but slowly add on as to not scare off deep fish.

with ~8k roll, $200 is fine

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Old 02-21-2018, 03:58 AM   #20840
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if someone plays $1-2 NL at a place with NO CAP on the maximum buyin, how much should they buyin for? im sure not buying in more than i have to i usually buyin $100-120. this is a little low since my roll is $13,000 but once u subtract 6 months of living expenses (and take into account this is the lowest my roll has been in 2 yrs) my roll is about as low as u can get.

forget about my situation, im not changing my buyin (unless i start doing $200 instead of $100-120) but how much do MOST of u buyin for? assume that u arent getting any other income and cannot replace it if u lose the whole $13,000 and will be homeless and panhandling if u go busto. and assume that like me, your hourly will run somewhere between $12 and $20 per hour
Under the scenario you describe, I'd want my stack size to be at least 100 BBs (so I have enough maneuvering room post-flop), but not buy in for 200 BBs or more. Thus I'd probably buy-in for $300 or at least $250 so I don't need to constantly top of my stack.
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:04 AM   #20841
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forgot to include that here in the las vehas golden nugget, most of the players who are deepstacked buyin from $500-2000. then some of the regulars who are used to buying in $300 max elsewhere, (regulars but not regulars in THIS room) they buyin the same $300. and about 1-3 people sit with $100. me, and a few broke tourists.

sometimes there is 6 or more with $500-3000 out of 9 max players
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:23 AM   #20842
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I wouldn't consider your 11k as a bankroll if you don't have six months living expenses saved. I would buy in for 300 in your case. But if you actually had an 11k bankroll I would buy in for at least 500 or play 1/3.
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:17 AM   #20843
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My philosophy would be pretty much what it is at capped games. I buy in for 100bb minimum and the lowest amount that still covers every player I consider myself to have a decent edge on. If there was a fish with $2k id buy in for $2k. If the fish were all sitting on $200 and the pros all on $500 I would buy in for $200. Cover fish and limit risk vs skill.
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:49 AM   #20844
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My philosophy would be pretty much what it is at capped games. I buy in for 100bb minimum and the lowest amount that still covers every player I consider myself to have a decent edge on. If there was a fish with $2k id buy in for $2k. If the fish were all sitting on $200 and the pros all on $500 I would buy in for $200. Cover fish and limit risk vs skill.
and if the amount the fish had on the table amounted to 95% of your bankroll, and u had no job or other income to replace it, how much would u buyin for? lets say the fish had $23,000 and some of the pros had quite a bit too.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:00 AM   #20845
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and if the amount the fish had on the table amounted to 95% of your bankroll, and u had no job or other income to replace it, how much would u buyin for? lets say the fish had $23,000 and some of the pros had quite a bit too.
There are 4-5 fish sitting with $2000+ in this 1/2 game? If thats true, why is everyone always complaining about how bad and nitty the games are in Vegas?
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:08 AM   #20846
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There are 4-5 fish sitting with $2000+ in this 1/2 game? If thats true, why is everyone always complaining about how bad and nitty the games are in Vegas?
because no one ever leaves the strip to come to the nugget downtown. many tourists have never been downtown and ONLY visit the strip. many tourists dont like the room because they dont realize they now give $2 hour, now have wifi, and now have comfortable chairs, none of which they offered 5 years ago. so they dont know about the game. plus, they wont ever play $1-2 even if the average stack size was a million dollars because their ego wont let them move down in stakes. and i didnt say 4-5 fish were sitting with $2000. i said 5-6 were sitting with $500-2000 plus at times.

it really dont do much for me seeing as i only buyin $100-120 but of course short buyins give u a huge edge over anyone whose deepstacked. and the deep stacks know u have the advantage which is why they dont like them.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:12 AM   #20847
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Because no one in Vegas wants to play 1/2 and/or go downtown. The Golden Nugget game is a gold mine. It's not common to have 4-5 fish sitting $2K deep, ime, but I'd bet it happens. It's common to have 4-5 fish sitting ~$500 deep.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:29 AM   #20848
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Because no one in Vegas wants to play 1/2 and/or go downtown. The Golden Nugget game is a gold mine. It's not common to have 4-5 fish sitting $2K deep, ime, but I'd bet it happens. It's common to have 4-5 fish sitting ~$500 deep.
4-5 fish sitting $500 deep is a gold mine. That game could be beaten for $50+/hr. Screw the Aria. Id be slumming downtown.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:58 AM   #20849
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and if the amount the fish had on the table amounted to 95% of your bankroll, and u had no job or other income to replace it, how much would u buyin for? lets say the fish had $23,000 and some of the pros had quite a bit too.
I guess that boils down to risk tolerance. I personally would buy in 10% of my bankroll or enough for the largest realistic pot (whatever is less) if there are multiple endlessly deep fish in a 1/2 game. Common wisdom would be 5% or less of bankroll.

Is the golden nugget game really that fishy? I've always held the assumption that downtown games would be bad compared to the strip

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Old 02-21-2018, 11:05 AM   #20850
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I guess that boils down to risk tolerance. I personally would buy in 10% of my bankroll or enough for the largest realistic pot (whatever is less) if there are multiple endlessly deep fish in a 1/2 game. Common wisdom would be 5% or less of bankroll.

Is the golden nugget game really that fishy? I've always held the assumption that downtown games would be bad compared to the strip
lmao get real.

You're never going to buy in 10% of your entire BR if you have absolutely no other source of income/ability to get a well paying job and would be forced into homelessness.

We're answering from his perspective, not our own
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