Fair enough, there are some regs who can't play during the typical weekday 10:00am - 4:00pm slot due to working (like me), but the point is they are still every bit as reggy as the guy pulling that shift (and sometimes overlapping into the afternoon/nighttime crew).

I highly doubt there are many poker rooms where 5:00pm rolls around and all of a sudden a bunch of total noob randoms sit down, other than perhaps in vacation hot spots. No difference between a 12:00noon reg and a 7:00pm reg, or a weeknight reg and a weekend reg, imo.

GcluelessregnoobG

This seems wrong to me. People playing during the day generally are much less likely to have a full-time job obviously. They're retired, underemployed, students or people playing professionally or semi-professionally. People playing after 5 are much more likely to have a full-time job, so should both have more money to spend and lose relative to the stakes and less time to play and think about poker. Doesn't mean they're complete noobs of course, but should lead to better games.

way more recs (and people in general, aka better opportunities to table select) play on the weekends/weekday evenings. not sure how you can possibly disagree with that gg

I'm simply saying there is not much difference between the skill level of a this reg versus that reg; they're all regs. And by reg, I mean recreational reg, which make up the vast majority of every line up.

What, are you guys sitting down with people who play poker once or twice a year or just a bunch of randoms out on a Friday / Saturday evening who went to the casino to gamble and drink and randomly sat at the poker table to do so? This is not my experience at all.

ETA: Depends obviously on your room and what kinda crowd it is attracting. If you're in a vacation hotspot then maybe you do get some randoms sitting at the table who are just there for random entertainment. And if you play in a big room, maybe you have better table selection. My room has 5 tables, which on busy evenings are all jammed with regs with a long waiting list (i.e. little chance of drunk random casino goer hopping on to a table). Limited table selection, although obviously tables can be better than others, but it's mostly a revolving table change list where tables can change drastically with a change or two (where the best method is often to target the second best table). I don't have a lot of experience with casinos in other locales, but it really would surprise me if this wasn't the "normal" case in all but big rooms / vacation destination; I could be wrong.

GcluelessrecreationalregnoobG

no...i just don't need a game to be filled with people who have never played poker before to consider it a good game lol.

just b/c someone plays a lot doesn't mean they are good. more recs/more games/bigger games are on weekends/weekday nights in almost all casinos.

not sure if this is just a terminology dispute but a game filled with "recreational regs" is an awesome game.

exactly this.

If you pay in a room where games are not significantly better on nights/weekends you are unfortunately in the minority.

@gg a 5 table room is crazy small and definitely not the norm for where most of us play

Is this true? I think it would be very interesting to get a consensus of where most of us played.

I live in a fairly big city with suburbs that at one time had 7 rooms, most with 8+ tables. Now down to 5 rooms, most with < 8 tables, a lot of rooms only featuring one or two games (in our room basically only 1/3 NL 99% of the time).

Is that really not the norm? Everyone is playing in a huge room with lots of different games and stakes? Honestly, I find that hard to believe; my guess is that most areas are like mine, and that the huge destination casino in the destination city is the exception.

Also, I'm not saying the recreational reg filled game can't be a good game. All I'm saying is that there isn't much difference between them; time of day / day doesn't make that much difference if that's the only type of game going.

Gwe'llhavetoagreetodisagreeonthis,imoG

Saturday 2am you may see a decent number of familiar faces, but most of them are different than the familiar faces at Tuesday 2pm. Both batches are mostly non-noobs these days, but the games are very different. In general, the 2am "reg" will have more gambol and a higher loss rate per hour.

I will admit I know nothing about 2:00am games since I'm always gone long before that.

GfairenoughG

I think most poker hot-spots (SFL, Vegas, LA) have places that offer more than 8 tables. In fact, less than 35 tables is abnormal for me. Also, the fact that you don't find a difference between mid-day and nighttime games seems bizarre.

So everyone that plays poker lives and plays in SFL / Vegas / LA?

Gtherinkdydinkroomsoutnumberthebigroomsbylike100:1 ,no?G

I would guess that over 90% of poker in the US happens in rooms that are busier than yours.

Are you familiar with the Bravo app?

So every butthole town (let alone the bigger cities) in the states where poker is played has a 35 table room going 24 hours offering unlimited games/stakes?

GnotbuyingitG

on friday/saturday evenings there are times where there are eight 2/5 games at my home casino. my room has 46 tables. last night there were roughly 30 games total going at 9 PM.

DClolflFT

IN BAL/DC, the rooms have 25, 52 and 39 tables. The 39 table room will be expanding sometime next year because it is so frequently at or near capacity. The 25 and 52 are rarely full, but they are not ghost towns either. Currently, 2pm Wednesday, active tables are 19/39, 18/52, 13/25.

At our peak, we had just 1 of the 7 rooms in our area use that app (that room is now defunct).

All's I'm saying is that it is my guess that rinky dink cardrooms outnumber big rooms by a rather large margin. And rinky dink cardrooms are supported by recreational regs (otherwise they'd quickly go under), and time of day / day doesn't make a whole heckuva lotta difference.

ETA: Although from the last few posts it certainly looks like I might be in the minority (at least with regards to posters on here) with regards to the type of room I play in.

GagreeingtodisagreeG

if 50 tables are running in 1 casino and 5 tables are running in 2 other casinos, then 5/6 of players in these casinos are playing in a very busy room.

In cities with one casino you'll get a lot more than 5 tables. Toledo OH, Battle Creek, that place in North PA, Tampa, etc. All more than that.

In places with several casinos you might get more dilution. We have 3 casinos in Detroit. 2 are really busy (one insanely so) with 10-20 tables at a time. One is kind of slow. Then we have dozens of smaller rooms with 1-3 tables at at time (think about a game in your local bowling alley).


I've also seen a significant difference in game conditions based on the time of day and day off week. Weekends are better with more recs, more drinking (even among regulars), and more money getting tossed around. Same with later in the evening. A table at 11am on a Tuesday is more likely to have a bunch of old bastards with coffee playing nitty. A night game is not. They're both super beatable, just in different ways.

This isn't politics.

Right this moment, if you take the tables in the bravo app and if the number currently running is 5 or less, put them in one column and 6 or greater in the other, the "greater" column would sum to 60% of the total.

- Some of the busiest rooms in the US don't use bravo.
- 2pm EST Wednesday is prejudicial toward quiet rooms.

Pretty sure this is all obvious???

this. it's not really a debate.

in the philly area:
Parx: 45 tables; currently 20 games
Sugarhouse: 28 tables; currently 6 games
Sands: 27 tables; currently 16 games
Harrah's: 28 tables; currently 6 games

and this is 2pm on a Wednesday - the # of games will vastly go up in the evening and on the weekends.

and then you also have Borgata in Atlantic City with like 70+ tables.

So this is what it is like in every city / town in the US? I know for a fact it isn't since I've been to a few of the rooms in the neighbouring big US city, and they have rooms both slightly bigger and about the same size as mine. Just Bravo'd one of its bigger popular indian casinos, and it currently has a single 1/3 NL game going.

Gallofourexperiencesdiffer,imoG

There is no convincing GG. He just likes to debate his side, right or wrong. Usually wrong.