I want to play 5/10 but I don't have enough money. How do I have more money?

That's what I hear, at least.

Just figure out what you can afford to lose and take a shot if the game is good. If you need X to play 2/5 you don't need 2X before you can play a single hand of 5/10 in your life.

If I ever was to play professionally, I would determine what I wanted to "pay myself" per hour. This number would be lower than my expected hourly, cover my living expenses + add money for savings. Say I had a $50/hr win rate, I would pay myself $30 into my life roll for example. So from my poker roll, at the end of every week, I would just pay my life roll from my poker roll (X hours played)($30), regardless of how I did that week. If I played 30 hours and had an amazing week and made $3k, I still only pay myself $900 into my life roll. If the next week I played 30 hours and broke even, I still pay myself $900 into my life roll.

there are many ways you can implement some strategies to do what you're asking, that's just what I would do

Good luck, hope that helps

Hopefully your 2/5 hourly win rate times your total number of hours played (minus taxes) equals more than your monthly bills. Otherwise you will run out of money eventually no matter how big your life roll is.

Can you live off of 80% of your 2/5 win rate? If so, put the other 20% towards the future 5/10 game roll and take shots maybe once a week now when the game looks soft.

This may be a strange question but what's a normal standard deviation range for live 1/2-1/3 type games?

I've always used 60-80 bb/hr as a range, just from various things I read. I played some 2-100 SL way back when and my SD ended up being about 110 bb/hr. I kind of chalked this up to being pretty LAGgy and small sample size, and kind of kept using 60-80 as a range. But recently I recalculated my NL stats and it's now way lower, like unreasonably low at 47 bb/hr. I'm probably LAGgier than ever so off the bat let's just rule out the possibility that's actually correct.

1. In the absence of any information, what's a good estimate, like if you calculated the SD for the 25th and 75th percentile LLSNLer?

2. Assume I'm LAGgy but not ******ed. Like preflop VPIP/PFR may be 20/15 to 23/17 (FR). How sensitive is SD to style of play? How unreasonable is 110?

3. California games seem to be considerably softer than other places. Does anyone know of any significant differences between CA/non-CA SDs?

Most good players Ive know quote their StdDev at around 100-110BB/hr.

I play pretty LAGgy preflop and I would say Im selectively aggro post flop. My StdDev over 2000+ hrs of 2/5 is 52 BB/hr.

I think most good players probably bluff the river more than I do making their StdDev higher but thats just a guess.

I ditch the concept of a life roll. It's not very useful.

Make more money by playing more hours, improving your game or reducing expenses.

This is when having a wife willing to make homemade porn on your phone comes in handy.

+1

This is a solid strategy.

But lets be honest, this is all just mental masturbation, as all accounting is.

Really it's just a question of:
A) How much do you need to have for 1 year (6 months, 9 months) of money for living?
B) How much do you need in your bankroll to play?
C) How much cash (or equivalent) do you have?

Is A + B < C?

If yes, continue. If no, stop.

Rinse repeat every day / week / month / whatever.

I have a 3'x2.5' dry erase board monthly calendar that I keep track of these stats
1. number of hours played (this is always a whole number)
2. Profit(green ) or loss(red)
3.Running monthly total profit
4.year to date hourly rate

I do not keep track of tips, food paid with chips. I round the hours played up or down accordingly, and I let Hendon Mob track my tournaments b/c they only list the cashes.

We need to extract maximum value in these kinds of situations. Make other dudes pay $1k each to star in the video in your place, obv.

Thanks for posting. I feel much less ****ty about going almost totally breakeven since September, and having session after session of totally nothing happening. (82o - fold, J3o - fold, Q5o - fold, T9s - nice a hand I can play - raise/call/3-bet/ship **** fold, AA in the BB! - folds around to the SB to chop)

I don't believe you. Prove it

(Incidentally, also the proper response to a woman making a statement about a piercing or interesting tattoo.)

Drop down dude.

Move up to where they respect your raises

I stack off with gutshots too

Shuffle, I'm sorry that you're having a tough time, but that is not the right time to try to FPS your way out of it. Play a low variance strat for a while.

Basically this.

You might want to sit out a few days. Go do something to take your mind off of poker. From your last few posts, just from the outside looking in, you're basically on monkey tilt.

How you're getting 500bb in the hole in 1 session while already on a major downswing is kind of incredible to me. I know some people don't like stop losses because if a table is good, we should play, but jfc, there is no way you're playing your A game through all of this.

Rack up, take $100 and go get a massage. It will be better money spent than trying to run it up

I don't think the problem is the downswing so much as the bankroll. In December, I also had a $7k downswing, but I was comfortable with my bankroll and it wasn't that big of a deal. OTOH, I have gone through other downswings while not being properly rolled and it's grating and unbelievably stressful.

Letting it go for a couple of weeks until you clear your head up and put in some study is the best solution if you can afford it. But if you can't and you depend on the money, take a couple of days off, move down stakes and go in with the mindset of being as being as mentally tough as possible. Easier said than done obviously. Keep reminding yourself that the only thing that matters is making the right decision.

Well boys, finally saved up about 1500$ for a BR for part time bankroll in 1/3.
I play to play Friday/Saturday maybe Thursday. All nights of course.

So far Im doing OK Down 60$ over 17hours, not bad i think. Gonna start to tighten up.

I think im going to be buying in with 250$. But so far im buying in 100bbs and its going well. The reason I want to buy in for 250$ is for BR purposes. Maybe even 200.

Any insight on this?

I suggest putting $100 online and staying off the real life tables for a good long time.

There's your problem imo. I take it you're playing professionally? You should have 10k min for 2/5 imo as a bankroll exclusively. Which means you should have maybe another 10k for x months life expenses. To operate on 10k for life and poker roll seems very risky. I'd also suggest saving some % of winnings to increase your net worth with. If you're fluctuating 10-25k and not saving any money, variance will fk you up and how are you going to improve/move up/get out?

Most should do this regardless. There is no substitute for the shear amount of hands played online. Online and live obv play differently, but transitioning concepts from one to the other isn't super complex and any winning player should be able to do it with some degree of success

I've heard mdu had 12evbb/100 win rate at plo500 zoom does anybody have a link?

Sent from my SM-G850W using Tapatalk

Over what sample? Seems highly unlikely that would be a 200k+ hand sample.

I'm not sure it was posted to 2+2 but i cant find it. I just realized thread was for live cash I'm on the phone I only saw official win rate.

Sent from my SM-G850W using Tapatalk