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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
And exclude the fish who buy in for 30-50BB try to run it up and end up buying in a bunch of times? No thanks. Those tools make up a significant portion of my player pool and my win rate.
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This was in response to my remark that casinos should raise the minimum buy-in to 100BB's.
I see your point, but I think many would players would just bite the bullet and buy in for the max if that was the rule. If it is 1-2, that's only $200, which is only $100 more than the minimum. Same with 2-5. if your risk tolerance, or your bankroll, is so low that you are only going to buy in for $200 at a 2-5 game, why the f wouldn't you just play 1-2?
Additionally, I don't see any harm in creating a barrier for people that are too poor to be playing in the game. I don't know about you, but I didn't get into poker to take money from bums. I always enjoyed the strategy element of hand reading as well as gaining an edge in the risk/probability elements of the game that make it more than just pure "gambling".
Grant it, the degens are what make the games run at 1-2, but did anyone ever think that many white-collar professionals (regardless of race or gender) or the college-aged, high-testosterone males/ wannabe ballers that have cash don't like spending time in casinos that are catering to low end clientele? You rarely see young males 21-25 in the poker room, which means there is no new lifeblood of new people getting into poker. These guys probably saw poker on TV, thought it looked cool, only to show up to the casino and see a completely different demographic than what is presented on all of the televised broadcasts. These guys need to be sucked into the allure of walking away with big money, and winning monster pots. Its kind of hard to get that rush when you flop a set and get it in versus your short-stacked opponent of $37. Luckily, the games can still get very deep, but I have noticed a trend of smaller stack sizes throughout the casinos in the country. Usually, its only during the graveyard hours when the tables start breaking that the deeper stacks start to consolidate into 1-2 remaining tables and the real action begins.
If you are ever in Las Vegas during the WSOP, especially at the top poker rooms, pretty much everyone in the room is financially well off, which leads to monster stack sizes of 200-300 BB's and huge action, even at 1-3 at any time of the day. Every table is filled with players drinking booze, and there are probably 2 female players at every table (many of them being pretty damn attractive lol). The atmosphere is rowdy and the game is super fun. Not to mention your win rate noticeably skyrockets. Lots of whales willing to donate and have a good time.
Obviously, the casinos are not going to discourage the degen types from walking in the door because that means more tables for the poker room to open and more rake to be collected. But as a poker player, if it takes 5 hours of grinding down a 55 year old black lady with a $100 short stack that you have to split up 5 ways with the other abc-regs, if you think that is the high-life, then I think the future of poker is bleak. People need to put $ on the table, otherwise your edge as a poker player is pretty much nullified. Not to mention, at 25-30 hands an hour of slow live poker, your time is being severely wasted if you are willing to work only to make 8-10 bucks an hour playing a HIGH VARIANCE and emotionally draining card game, while also contributing nothing to society.
I would like to see a lot of the break-even to slightly winning nits step up to 2-5 but they will happily go along playing 50BB poker and making minimum wage rather than taking shots and playing poker the game it was meant to be played.
Last edited by bodybuilder32; 11-19-2016 at 07:21 AM.