We each have our own accounts and a joint one. We each get paid into our own account and have automatic transfers into the joint for our agreed upon amounts that cover the major expenses. That way we don't need to see each other's frivolous spending on stuff we think is stupid/wasteful.

Nah not mad. Just incredulous that some people actually live like that.

The concept that you can be married, have a family and still on some level have financial independence / privacy is not a new concept.

My parents did this. And my grandparents on my moms side did this as well. This isn't a brand new concept / idea being thrown around.

Edit: Dubey- I'm not saying a lot of families aren't capable / have to monitor like crazy etc.

What I do find crazy is that there are people on this forum who are in this situation who are lol gambling with money they can't lose

That seems the most reasonable to me.

Well, what I did was marry someone who doesn't pore over bank statements scrutinizing how I've spent every dollar. My wife forgot her password to access our joint account online for over a year, and she wasn't for a second sweating what was going on in there.

I think it takes a bit of projection to automatically equate having a joint account to having some despot lording over your wallet.

Doesn't mean having no separate account is best and not saying there aren't marriages where your assumptions would apply, but you seem to be filling in the massive blanks of what you don't know about people's situations with worst-case-scenarios.

I blame her every morning I open my eyes and have to face a new day. Between you and me, I haven't actually locked that deadbolt in two years.

I think you misunderstood what I said. Having a joint account isn't a bad idea. However, having a joint account without each half having their own personal account IS a bad idea.

You guys have already filled in the blanks by asking questions like how do you married grinders manage your bankroll and the responses that followed

Unless you're playing 5/10+ all the time , swinging around significant amounts of money, being married and managing your poker br should be a moot point.

Edit: I remember his has been brought up in the past about how some SOs only allow their other half to play poker if they get a cut / taken out to eat or whatever which sounds incredibly controlling / unhealthy.

I mean when these guys wives go out shopping do they pull the same **** and say I only approve of you buy me something too?

This is just one of the many reasons why not having personal, private bank accounts is a bad idea and could put strain on a relationship

Moot

I don't understand why you are equating joint finances with broke and can't afford to gamble? No idea why you are making that connection.

Having a budget does not mean broke or living pay check to pay check.

Man you're so lost. I suggest you go back and re read everything again.

I didn't make any connection that joint finances = broke / can't gamble. Nor did I ever say that having a budget means a person is broke or is living pay check to pay check. Where did I explicitly say that?

You got a little annoyed and called me a name because you think I'm being condescending. You then made a snarky comment that I don't know how a typical family operates (and by doing so you implied you were part of the " typical family").

Well- I hate to break it to you but the typical family is "broke" living pay check to pay check, under a mountain of credit card debt / bills, and cannot even scrape $1000 for an emergency fund.

IMO- if someone is in the situation above then it should be pretty obvious they can't afford / it is extremely unwise and irresponsible to gamble.

LOL...wait, it's really sad actually, shouldn't laugh.

If you can't even trust the one you're married to, good luck having any meaningful relationship in life.

Ooooooh, I get it now. I'm embarrassed that it took me this long to understand.

You see, Siculamente is one of those posters who jumps in with a scattershot of hot takes, and when you try to nail down exactly what it means or how it relates to what we were talking about before, he just says we're misinterpreting him and he was referring to some other comment that he can't be arsed to point to specifically, and as we all circle around trying to tackle the greased pig that is his ostensible point, some people inevitably lose their patience with this maddening exercise and starts piss-taking and name-calling and the conversation devolves into the 2p2 equivalent of YouTube comments.

You can all move along now. August 9th has already slipped through our grasp, but we can still hold onto tomorrow.

I think Playbig makes some good points in this thread.

And, Mike, I've said this before, and I'm not gonna hammer you on it, but 1000 hours can easily be a heater. I've had many such heaters (and many such downswings) of that length or longer online back in the day. Why to you think so many "unbeatable pros" just up and disappear?

That being said, this type of hand is not usually in my raising range from either blind preflop. I generally tend to polarize my blind raises to monsters and hands I would rather not call with (ie. junk hands), so I also understand some of your points, Mike.

I definitely agree with Playbig that I'm mostly targeting players with my raises who will tend to call preflop and play face up (and fit and fold) post. However, I also don't mind grabbing the limps. Those can add a nice padding to the old winrate.

What if I told you that I'm the one who insists on a budget? Jeezus creeps I guess gamblers are just the last people to talk to about wealth building.

Just make more money and then you don't have to worry as much about budgets and such


I'm busy not caring



Lol this guy....STFU Zoltan

You idiots are going to get us locked up again.

If husband and wife are happy and bills are being paid who's to say how it should be done? There's more than one way.


I still have 12.5BI stuffed in my sock drawer in case the wife goes looking to spend it on pedicures.

Country club memberships and Rolls Royces though

My variance is very very low which is another reason I have such confidence in my results. My StnDev is only 5.5 times my win rate. I havent found a single person yet that has a lower ratio. Most good players ratios are double to triple that. People here told me I was on a heater at 200 hours. They said it again at 500 hours. Now I'm at 900+ and my win rate has been consistent and almost exactly the same since this whole time. Hardly anyone else here will even give out their numbers....but they sure dont mind giving out their HH advice like its the gospel.

It would be very interesting if there was a way to have every posters verified win rate by listed with their screen name.

Maybe focus on what you're doing instead of worrying about everyone else's win/losing rates.

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It's not about me, but thanks for the suggestion. It's about someone giving the wrong advice in this forum because he was on a small heater of 100 hours and thinks everyone should be playing like he does because it's working for him in the short run. I do have a pet peeve about people giving the wrong advice (such as never to cbet lol).

you previously claimed you were doing at least triple these numbers, if not more, so these are not "unheard of", which I referred to earlier. Looks like reality has started to settle in, just like I suggested about 6 months ago in the win rate thread.

I claimed I was doing double or triple those numbers? Link? Yep, reality is setting in. I am the biggest crusher playing 2/5 in the biggest poker room in S.Floida.

I have a pet peeve regarding people misquoting me. You intentionally took the "never CBet" comment out of context.

Deepstack discussion is quite lol. Nice mix of hubris in assuming that nitty adjustments are the best everyone can do because that's what people here default to and projection in assuming that everyone makes these adjustments.

(Also pretty lol talking about the average players adjustment when the average player is not good)

Finally the stack off threshold in single raised pots is a bit of a strawman because multi way pots, 3 bet pots and 4 bet pots are all real things.

I just went back and read every post Ive ever made in the win rate thread. My first post is on page 507. My first post related to my win rate is on page 529 where I say I have 400 hours with a $54 /hr win rate. I have never said that my win rate is, or was, anywhere near double or triple that.

I think its safe to say that you are a liar.

Exactly - deep doesn't matter in raise pre-bet-bet-bet pots... deep matters in raise-3bet-4way call pots.

this made me lol.