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Old 07-28-2016, 02:10 PM   #15826
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Already proven wrong in this thread. wj94

Dude lives in Vegas and rather play 1/2.

That alone makes no sense, but hey, you believe what you want.
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:56 PM   #15827
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I know this magic number gets tossed around a lot, but I actually don't see *that* many significant hour giraffes here with this result.

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You callin me insignificant old man?





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Old 07-28-2016, 04:24 PM   #15828
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Doesn't mpethy only play 1/2 still?
He must have cranked out a huge number of hours at this point.

He's been posting here since long before my time and my predecessor's time if I recall right.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:35 PM   #15829
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Doesn't mpethy only play 1/2 still?
He must have cranked out a huge number of hours at this point.

He's been posting here since long before my time and my predecessor's time if I recall right.
Yeah, I'm sure M's hours giraffe would be impressive and would give a pretty good example of different stretches one can go thru. Hope he's doing alright. If I recall, last time he came to the chat thread he mentioned how he'd been temp banned from his room.

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Old 07-28-2016, 07:40 PM   #15830
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Dude lives in Vegas and rather play 1/2.

That alone makes no sense, but hey, you believe what you want.
Well he's crushing 1/2 and I believe it may have had something to do with commute to Red Rock being more convenient for him. Anyways, I've played with him and he's a very good player. I've also played with his buddy who is a 2/5 reg in Vegas and he's very good as well.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:42 PM   #15831
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If I recall, last time he came to the chat thread
If you actually came to the meetup you would have met him IRL more recently than that.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:51 PM   #15832
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6000hr live giraffe would be awesome (probably setting a record in this thread?).

Gjustsayin',pokepokeG


Sorry I'm new at this but this is the best I could do for graphing for now. 6386hrs

I use pokerdominator results recording, not the best I'm sure. Hours are about 30% @1/2, 50% @ 1/3, 20% @2/5

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:38 AM   #15833
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Nice job!



Would advise you to have a 2 buyin ($400) max loss per session tho and stick to it


I mean this seriously, How do you get any volume in with such a small stop loss? I get stuck 200bb fairly regularly in sessions (I'm also a super lag who has crazy variance)


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Old 07-29-2016, 03:44 AM   #15834
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$20/hr over long period in 1/2 is impossible for the simple fact that no one that good would remain at that stake.

Casual player that burns few hours a week can probably maintain that rate, but it would take a very special player pool for anyone to want to mingle in a 1/2 game over long extended period of time, even if it is profitable.


there are places where you don't have a choice. I have a 900 hour sample size of 1/2 $300max over the last year simply because no other game existed in the room


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Old 07-29-2016, 03:48 AM   #15835
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I know this magic number gets tossed around a lot, but I actually don't see *that* many significant hour giraffes here with this result.



Gnotsayin'it'snotpossible,justsayin'it'snotnecessa rily"withoutmucheffort"G


What are we calling significant hours? 2k+? Pretty sure all live win rate graphs are in general a run good contest


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Old 07-29-2016, 01:31 PM   #15836
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I mean this seriously, How do you get any volume in with such a small stop loss? I get stuck 200bb fairly regularly in sessions (I'm also a super lag who has crazy variance)


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Our difference is prob our styles of play. I have to quit due to stop loss only once every month or two so it really doesn't affect my volume.

Try this(over an extended number of sessions): Play your normal way w/o a stop loss, but everytime you get down 200BB make a note of the amount and time on your phone. Continue your normal session and calculate your winrate numbers at the end of your session from the point of your being down 200BB to the end. If your numbers are poor you prob need a stop loss.

Your numbers don't have to be negative. They just need to be "poor" relative to your usual. So (just pulling numbers out of my ass) if your normal win rate is 6BB/hr but after you're down 200BB your winrate is 2BB/hr you need a stoploss.

Another type of stop loss I use is if I'm down after 4 hrs play, I quit. I kept track of my numbers for a long time and it was very striking how I almost never "came back" if I played longer than this.

Experiment and find your own levels of time/amounts
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:59 PM   #15837
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800 hour update. All 1/2 and 1/3, about half Vegas:

Total Hours |Total Profit| Hourly
798.13 | $47,995.00 | $60.13

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:05 PM   #15838
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800 hour update. All 1/2 and 1/3, about half Vegas:

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798.13 |$47,995.00 | $60.13

Wow.

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:14 PM   #15839
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800 hour update. All 1/2 and 1/3, about half Vegas:

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798.13 | $47,995.00 | $60.13

This is beautiful
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:47 PM   #15840
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Waiting for all the "you obviously run like god" posts.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:48 PM   #15841
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Waiting for all the "you obviously run like god" posts.


Yeah and **** those haters.

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Nice results donkey copter
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:57 PM   #15842
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Yeah and **** those heaters

FYP.

But yeah nice Effin giraffe DC
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:45 PM   #15843
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Dude lives in Vegas and rather play 1/2.

That alone makes no sense, but hey, you believe what you want.
I have a real job. Poker is a fun side thing for me, I'm not playing to make a living. The 2/5 at Red Rock usually sucks and there's only 0 or 1 game going on most days. The 1/2 on the other hand is the best 1/2 game in town IMO, and I have all of the regs ranges in all sorts of spots down pretty well, they don't know how to adjust a damn thing. Driving to the strip and back after working all day feels like a lot of work. Believe what you want yo, I am in fact a real person.
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Old 07-30-2016, 02:03 PM   #15844
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You're a legend. Ignore Richard Parker! Please keep providing good strategy and great BRM advice.
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:39 PM   #15845
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True story. If you're a losing player, none of my posts will help ya.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:58 PM   #15846
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True story. If you're a poker player, none of my posts will help ya.
Thats a good point
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:17 PM   #15847
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Just because you don't get the value.

I am plenty people's favorite poster.
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:17 PM   #15848
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Despite whether I agree or disagree with RP's posts, I do respect his complete disregard for whether or not his posts might upset somebody, but rather simply speaks his honest opinion
Something that's drastically undervalued in an industry where you should do everything you can to eliminate emotions in any sort of decision making
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:24 PM   #15849
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Just because you don't get the value.

I am plenty people's favorite poster.
No.

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Old 07-30-2016, 09:43 PM   #15850
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No.
So you're saying I still have a chance?
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