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Old 06-05-2016, 10:59 AM   #15101
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Playing for a living, I would shot take 2/5 when the games look good, but wouldn't move to it full-time yet. Be aware that when the games are at their best, they are also at their swingiest, so you variance could be a ***** (or could send you on a quick heater to easy full-time 2/5ville)
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:00 AM   #15102
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The point is that is a very low stddev per hour. Are you sure your software/app calculates it correctly?
No, Im not sure. So far I cant find the formula that Garick says is posted int his thread.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:01 AM   #15103
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BANKROLL CHECK

16k BR and 4.5k E fund

how much 2/5 should I be mixing in?
Are you playing for a living with no other income?
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:08 AM   #15104
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Are you playing for a living with no other income?
I am playing for a living,

I have rental, spousal, and some a few others incredibly small streams of income (typically amounting to less then $100/mo)
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:13 AM   #15105
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No, Im not sure. So far I cant find the formula that Garick says is posted int his thread.
Start here and read the next few dozen posts. Note that if you don't have standard dev per session either, you'll need to figure that, before you can get to sdev/hour. You can do that by entering all of your session results in to the calculator here.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:16 AM   #15106
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Start here and read the next few dozen posts. Note that if you don't have standard dev per session either, you'll need to figure that, before you can get to sdev/hour. You can do that by entering all of your session results in to the calculator here.
Thx. I do have StDev/session...at least I have what the Apps says. Its $461.96
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:27 AM   #15107
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Thx. I do have StDev/session...at least I have what the Apps says. Its $461.96
I used the calculator and entered all my sessions and my StDev/session is correct so Im going to assume my StDev/hr is correct also.

The maths is too hard for me to actually do it myself.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:29 AM   #15108
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Mikestarr: Google. P-hacking.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:30 AM   #15109
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Thx. I do have StDev/session...at least I have what the Apps says. Its $461.96
For starters, if spreadsheet/math isn't your forte, paste some/all of your session results into that calculator Garick linked and see if it spits out something like $462.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:32 AM   #15110
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:32 AM   #15111
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I used the calculator and entered all my sessions and my StDev/session is correct so Im going to assume my StDev/hr is correct also.

The maths is too hard for me to actually do it myself.
Reasonable actually. If your per session stdev is that low, the hourly stdev makes sense, guessing probably just under 4hr session average.

No idea how you can crush at 2-5 with that low stdev/hr. Villains massive weak/tight and average stack size low? Stumped.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:35 AM   #15112
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Reasonable actually. If your per session stdev is that low, the hourly stdev makes sense, guessing probably just under 4hr session average.

No idea how you can crush at 2-5 with that low stdev/hr. Villains massive weak/tight and average stack size low? Stumped.
I have no idea either. I just play how I play...but ever HH I post I get told that I suck....so read into that whatever you like.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:44 AM   #15113
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at 1/3 my WR std is $200.82/hr and my WR is $10.57/hr
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:50 AM   #15114
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I am playing for a living,

I have rental, spousal, and some a few others incredibly small streams of income (typically amounting to less then $100/mo)
Your spouse's income AND whatever rental income you have is less than $100/month? How is that possible?
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:51 AM   #15115
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Your spouse's income AND whatever rental income you have is less than $100/month? How is that possible?
No,

I was refering to the "incredibly small streams of income"
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:51 AM   #15116
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No idea how you can crush at 2-5 with that low stdev/hr. Villains massive weak/tight and average stack size low? Stumped.
That's my guess.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:04 PM   #15117
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I used the calculator and entered all my sessions and my StDev/session is correct so Im going to assume my StDev/hr is correct also.

The maths is too hard for me to actually do it myself.
Actually very easy to check. Just use your StDev per session divided by the square root of your average session length.

So if your StDev/session is 462 you would divide 462 by (sqrt of average session length). Our algebra gets us 462/(sqrtX)=261. This means that our average session length should be 1.77 squared, or 3.13 hours. If that is your correct average session length, your StDev as shown in your tracker is correct.

If not, you need to figure it yourself by finding your average session length, getting its square root, and dividing 462 by that.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:04 PM   #15118
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at 1/3 my WR std is $200.82/hr and my WR is $10.57/hr
I'd want a higher WR over past, say, 500 hours before moving up. The passivity of the 1-3 world is addictive tho....
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:08 PM   #15120
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Actually very easy to check. Just use your StDev per session divided by the square root of your average session length.

So if your StDev/session is 462 you would divide 462 by (sqrt of average session length). Our algebra gets us 462/(sqrtX)=261. This means that our average session length should be 1.77 squared, or 3.13 hours. If that is your correct average session length, your StDev as shown in your tracker is correct.

If not, you need to figure it yourself by finding your average session length, getting its square root, and dividing 462 by that.
As I'm sure you're aware, that would just be an estimate of his stdev/hour. Probably plenty good enough.

I'm already convinced by the low stdev/session and high WR that he's on a heater in bizarro world. (not hating Mike, just telling it like it is)
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:14 PM   #15121
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Reasonable actually. If your per session stdev is that low, the hourly stdev makes sense, guessing probably just under 4hr session average.

No idea how you can crush at 2-5 with that low stdev/hr. Villains massive weak/tight and average stack size low? Stumped.
Small sample size.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:22 PM   #15122
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Once you have an emergency fund of 6 months of living expenses (20k), a proper 1/2 roll (10k), then you can start setting aside 3k or so to play 2/5. So you should have at least 33k before playing 2/5. If you follow these guidelines and make 5bbs an hr you won't go broke.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:28 PM   #15123
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I'd want a higher WR over past, say, 500 hours before moving up. The passivity of the 1-3 world is addictive tho....
this is in my last 300 hours of 1/3

over lifetime(atleast since i started logging results in 2013) I've averaged about 18/hr across all stakes which is something like 40% 1/2 33% 1/3 25% 2/5 and 2% 5/T
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Once you have an emergency fund of 6 months of living expenses (20k), a proper 1/2 roll (10k), then you can start setting aside 3k or so to play 2/5. So you should have at least 33k before playing 2/5. If you follow these guidelines and make 5bbs an hr you won't go broke.
I think an emergency fund of 20k whilst I have spousal and rental income is probably pretty insane.

my spousal/rental income covers our monthly nut with a small surplus so I can actually net $0 for months and not take any money out of bankroll.

20k is also almost a years worth a spending for us.
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Small sample size.
I'm talking about the 700 hours in total. Run good or not, the stdev/hr is low.
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