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Old 05-29-2016, 11:45 PM   #15001
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I agree with most of this and it's a great post and many poker pros would be wise to pay a lot of attention to it. I see lots of people with huge spending leaks. Now, in my casino massages are only $1/minute, and I still RARELY get them (once or twice a year), but I actually think I should get them more often. My neck/back get pretty stiff if I'm putting in a lot of hours, and a 15 minute massage for $20 w/ tip is: a) cheaper than a full massage outside the casino b) may prevent me from needing that full massage as often and c) I keep earning some money during the massage.


Chair massage at casino /= real massage, even if you do comparable time. You're getting, at best, a slightly below average deep tissue massage. At worst it's a complete waste of money.

Go find a real MT, and not one of the corporate places like Hand and Stone, those MTs are **** (they pay ****, so good MTs don't work there, it's all green MTs). Find a real massage therapist office, a reputable one - it will be licensed by the state most likely or sometimes they work in chiropractors offices. A lot of times you won't spend much more than what the casino MTs are charging and you'll get a way better one

Wife's an MT, so I feel compelled to talk about it if it comes up
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:28 AM   #15002
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Wife's an MT
You sir, have what I can only dream of.

If she has any single MT friends looking to get married tell them to hit me up, thanks.
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:55 AM   #15003
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You sir, have what I can only dream of.

If she has any single MT friends looking to get married tell them to hit me up, thanks.
When I was in college I met this girl that was working toward her license and had to give X number of hours of massages as practice or whatever. They all finished with a happy ending. Couldn't think up a better way to start freshman year.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:07 AM   #15004
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You sir, have what I can only dream of.



If she has any single MT friends looking to get married tell them to hit me up, thanks.


You ever see the episode of Seinfeld when he dates the MT? That's basically my life...

If I get a knot in my back from lifting or golf or something, she's push on it and she actually knows what she's doing, which is nice, but getting her to do like 10 minutes of that is like pulling teeth. It probably doesn't help that I a fairly muscular and my wife is rail thin and I like extremely deep tissue work. Regardless, now that we have 2 young kids, it is virtually impossible to sit down for that long for both of us. Maybe in 10 years....

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When I was in college I met this girl that was working toward her license and had to give X number of hours of massages as practice or whatever. They all finished with a happy ending. Couldn't think up a better way to start freshman year.

Pretty sure the latter part wasn't part of the curriculum.

I've "helped" a few times when the place she worked at was doing training. The set up a bunch of tables in room and have a teacher and they work all on people. That's a sweet gig because it's usually a few hours and they'll rotate who works on who so they practice on different body types, which means I get a bunch of different MTs so I could see who I liked better

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Old 05-30-2016, 08:50 AM   #15005
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You ever see the episode of Seinfeld when he dates the MT? That's basically my life...

If I get a knot in my back from lifting or golf or something, she's push on it and she actually knows what she's doing, which is nice, but getting her to do like 10 minutes of that is like pulling teeth. It probably doesn't help that I a fairly muscular and my wife is rail thin and I like extremely deep tissue work. Regardless, now that we have 2 young kids, it is virtually impossible to sit down for that long for both of us. Maybe in 10 years....




Pretty sure the latter part wasn't part of the curriculum.

I've "helped" a few times when the place she worked at was doing training. The set up a bunch of tables in room and have a teacher and they work all on people. That's a sweet gig because it's usually a few hours and they'll rotate who works on who so they practice on different body types, which means I get a bunch of different MTs so I could see who I liked better
I think that's called an orgy.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:57 AM   #15006
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I'm not an orgy guy. Don't you know what it means to become an orgy guy? It changes
everything. I'd have to dress different. I'd have to act different. I'd have to grow a mustache and get all kinds of robes and lotions and I'd need a new bedspread and new curtains I'd have to get thick carpeting and weirdo lighting. I'd have to get new friends. I'd have to get orgy friends... Naw, I'm not ready for it.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:29 AM   #15007
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Going for an award on most subtle brags packed into one Johnny?
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:54 AM   #15008
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Going for an award on most subtle brags packed into one Johnny?
u want subtle brags - here u go

I was married to a massage therapist. I got t-boned by a drunk driver on my way to olympic trials. After several sessions she told me she had to stop being my therapist cuz she found me attractive and it was unprofessional for her to continue massaging me...ya I nailed her in the massage room.

I find stripperz more entertaining to date cuz of their insatiable desire to consume drugs, get crazy and have sex with me and their stripper buddies at the same time
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:08 AM   #15009
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now that is subtlety
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:51 AM   #15010
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I don't even know what this thread is about any more.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:56 AM   #15011
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Me neither, but I'd like to remind everyone that we have a perfectly good chat thread for off topic chat. Please, let's stay on topic ITT.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:30 AM   #15012
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Damn, I was hoping for a judgy "I'll allow it...".

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Old 05-30-2016, 12:57 PM   #15013
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I would never tell a fish to not come in poker room, counterintuitive don't you think?


For me, I have told certain fish / whales that I'm friendly with that maybe they should go home on hat particular day (away from the table)

Even though I'm there to make money, I also still have a conscious

This is not when guys are firing off and I think they can afford to lose but instead when it seems like the money really matters


I'm not a pro so it's different for me


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Old 05-30-2016, 01:24 PM   #15014
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I mean, you don't want to skin him and crush him so bad that he *never* comes back. Fish need to leave with wins sometimes to keep their interest in the game.
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Old 05-30-2016, 01:27 PM   #15015
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I mean, you don't want to skin him and crush him so bad that he *never* comes back. Fish need to leave with wins sometimes to keep their interest in the game.


I agree

My motivation is a bit of both




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Old 05-30-2016, 01:42 PM   #15016
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I mean, you don't want to skin him and crush him so bad that he *never* comes back. Fish need to leave with wins sometimes to keep their interest in the game.
Damn right we do YOU HEAR THAT SKIP???
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:08 PM   #15017
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For me, I have told certain fish / whales that I'm friendly with that maybe they should go home on hat particular day (away from the table)

Even though I'm there to make money, I also still have a conscious
There could be a long discussion with what you said above, and some may argue that telling him to go home is not conscious oriented.

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And conscious and morale values are basically "it depends" topics...

This is not when guys are firing off and I think they can afford to lose but instead when it seems like the money really matters


I'm not a pro so it's different for me
Makes more sense for a pro to want the guy to go home before he falls into oblivion and never be seen again, or sees the game from a very different light than before.

Edit: or what Angrist had already said.
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:25 PM   #15018
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There could be a long discussion with what you said above, and some may argue that telling him to go home is not conscious oriented.



Makes more sense for a pro to want the guy to go home before he falls into oblivion and never be seen again, or sees the game from a very different light than before.

Edit: or what Angrist had already said.


Agreed

I don't think my decision is optimal by any means or advising that others follow my lead.

Just sharing
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:32 PM   #15019
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At exactly 400 hours after last session, and reversed course on a pretty sharp downswing, and got back over $10k profit in 2016



in 400 hours, you've tipped one dollar??
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:56 PM   #15020
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Oh you know what, I think this summer I'm going to actually keep track of tips.

Or maybe I shouldn't... It's probably best I don't think about it lol
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:11 AM   #15021
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I told a young grinder to go home once because his head wasn't in the game. His best friend had just been murdered and now he was dumping buyins.

(Turns out he was the one that murdered him though)
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:20 AM   #15022
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holy ****. Now that's a story.
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:31 AM   #15023
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in 400 hours, you've tipped one dollar??
Snickers bar.

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Old 05-31-2016, 12:51 PM   #15024
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Sir your Diva-ing is encroaching on my territory around these parts
Who? Me? Diva?

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Old 05-31-2016, 01:21 PM   #15025
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in 400 hours, you've tipped one dollar??


Obviously not. I guess I mistakenly tapped the tip button once during a session and I'm far too lazy to look through all of them to find it.

My winrate would actually be higher but I really like most of my usual dealers and tip accordingly
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