Bruh I too am a civil servant. 14 years to go.

This Tom thumb sounds like a real jack the lad.

i love how whenever someone comes in and asks questions about winrates/bankroll/etc. every dumbazz chimes in with, "brah... there's a thread for that".. what a joke

and then, 90% of the "real" posts itt get the absolutely asinine response of, "why you post that brah... sample size"

I'm guessing that you and bwslim69 are the only posters from Hawaii, given that noone else had used the term "brah" in this thread before.

Yesterday I bought two meals at applebees so I'd have food for the whole day while my lazy ass stayed inside, plus some food leftover for the day after.

The total came out to $30

Thoughts on obvious degenerate splurging? Will I make it past 2016 without going bust?

Obv question is why?

I'm usually pretty forgiving when it comes to missing crucial content within a post, but you literally just read the first few words and then replied.

I think he means why the ****hole that is Applebees?

You must hate yourself to eat at Applebee's. It's like hate food.

Lullz was more of a global question like why would you willingly chose to get the swill that they put out. Basically what RP said

degenerate splurging, read the post.

I think this is really low for 2/5. I'm assuming you are just counting bankroll only, and there is a separate liferoll. Two things though. First, I've had a 10K downswing at 2/5, don't believe I was playing poorly, and even with that included my long-term winrate is quite good. Secondly, I think people should look more at where they need to move down and in reality a 10K roll for 2/5 is going to force you to move down after a relatively modest downswing. Now, if poker is not your sole source of income, you should be shot-taking 2/5 in that 10K ballpark for sure, but it's not what I'd consider a bulletproof 2/5 roll by any stretch.

I agree with most of this and it's a great post and many poker pros would be wise to pay a lot of attention to it. I see lots of people with huge spending leaks. Now, in my casino massages are only $1/minute, and I still RARELY get them (once or twice a year), but I actually think I should get them more often. My neck/back get pretty stiff if I'm putting in a lot of hours, and a 15 minute massage for $20 w/ tip is: a) cheaper than a full massage outside the casino b) may prevent me from needing that full massage as often and c) I keep earning some money during the massage.

But yeah, all of the other things you listed are just demolishing bankrolls. The number of people who are dusting off money sports betting, in the pit when they tilt (like it's not OK to tilt at the table, but it's OK to go play 100bb/hand blackjack or 100bb/spin roulette? Yeah, ok...), or on strippers when they win... I don't even like spending comps on expensive meals since I view them as a good way to cut down my food costs in the casino if I use them wisely.

Good job tracking all of this. I'm curious what table expenses are. Also, to make it a little easier for yourself in the future, you should have fewer categories. Rent, utilities, gas, car insurance, health insurance, food, entertainment, shopping, etc...

For example, Amazon ($138), furniture ($65), gifts ($208), headphones ($54), shoes ($21) and shopping ($308) could all really just be put down as shopping. Each one alone doesn't look too bad, but that's $794 on shopping in 5 weeks. Call it a 50 week year for simplicity, and that's 7.9K a year. You could definitely save some there, although if there were a lot of one-time expenses in that 5-week period, that's key and only you know for sure.

Also if that's -EV gambling (I'm assuming it is, sports?), you could save yourself a lot of money on that too. Assuming you ran a little bad and should have only lost like $500, that's still 5K a year.

Your entertainment is also pretty high: weed ($250), travel ($383), Netflix etc ($48), dates ($705), alcohol ($160), and probably some of the food falls under meals out which can be entertainment. I know the first two are probably pretty essential to your lifestyle and I'm not hating on Netflix, but the dates in particular are pretty expensive. $7K a year on dates is a ton, especially when you're already in a serious relationship.

All in all though, 50K/yr in spending isn't TERRIBLE, but you could definitely cut it down a bit.

This is great advice. There are many times where people should be taking their A+ game max hourly in a smaller game instead of their B hourly in a bigger game, based on bankroll, etc. Like in your example, if someone is going to make $40/hr crushing 1/3, but has to play a different style at $2/5 and only make $40-45/hr OR make $60/hr but have bigger swings that force them down, cause stress, etc, they may be better off when you look at the EV of like their next 300-500 hours of poker to print the 1/3 money longer.

Tru balla IMO

Doesn't matter how you categorize your rolls as a pro, when money is dwindling down, there is only one roll.

Nice. Confirmed baller status.

Idk where you guys get your food, but I've been eating too much Chipotle and ran out of ideas. Please enlighten me (For finance related advice ofc incase your watching Garick)

Post a list of restaurants and we shall give you thumb up or down, fiscally of course.

Well a 10K liferoll for 2/5 as a pro is laughably low IMO. Even if you're living on 2K a month, a 2-month 2K downswing knocks your roll down to 4K... Throw in a lifeswing (car repairs, medical expenses, etc) and you're almost completely busto and would need massive 1/2 volume to get back on your feet.

"Cook" at home. Get frozen chicken, wraps (low carb if you're trying to be healthy), Mexican blend of shredded cheese, salsa, some onions/peppers (you may even find them frozen that you just microwave), chipotle pepper powder and the awesome key ingredient: Hidden Valley Southwest Chipotle dressing. Tastes awesome, reasonably healthy, way cheaper than eating out all the time. You can microwave all of this in like 3 mins. 1:30 on the chicken, another 1:00 after adding cheese, salsa, peppers/onions, etc, last :30 for the dressing.

Generally speaking, if you want to save money on food, cook & eat at home.

Obviously you didn't catch the part where I was confirmed a baller? What part of being a "baller" includes cooking and saving $$$

serious note: I did find sauce that taste like subways southwest chipotle sauce, which is dank af

I need links of this sauce please

Chair massage at casino /= real massage, even if you do comparable time. You're getting, at best, a slightly below average deep tissue massage. At worst it's a complete waste of money.

Go find a real MT, and not one of the corporate places like Hand and Stone, those MTs are **** (they pay ****, so good MTs don't work there, it's all green MTs). Find a real massage therapist office, a reputable one - it will be licensed by the state most likely or sometimes they work in chiropractors offices. A lot of times you won't spend much more than what the casino MTs are charging and you'll get a way better one

Wife's an MT, so I feel compelled to talk about it if it comes up

You sir, have what I can only dream of.

If she has any single MT friends looking to get married tell them to hit me up, thanks.

When I was in college I met this girl that was working toward her license and had to give X number of hours of massages as practice or whatever. They all finished with a happy ending. Couldn't think up a better way to start freshman year.

You ever see the episode of Seinfeld when he dates the MT? That's basically my life...

If I get a knot in my back from lifting or golf or something, she's push on it and she actually knows what she's doing, which is nice, but getting her to do like 10 minutes of that is like pulling teeth. It probably doesn't help that I a fairly muscular and my wife is rail thin and I like extremely deep tissue work. Regardless, now that we have 2 young kids, it is virtually impossible to sit down for that long for both of us. Maybe in 10 years....


Pretty sure the latter part wasn't part of the curriculum.

I've "helped" a few times when the place she worked at was doing training. The set up a bunch of tables in room and have a teacher and they work all on people. That's a sweet gig because it's usually a few hours and they'll rotate who works on who so they practice on different body types, which means I get a bunch of different MTs so I could see who I liked better

I think that's called an orgy.

I'm not an orgy guy. Don't you know what it means to become an orgy guy? It changes
everything. I'd have to dress different. I'd have to act different. I'd have to grow a mustache and get all kinds of robes and lotions and I'd need a new bedspread and new curtains I'd have to get thick carpeting and weirdo lighting. I'd have to get new friends. I'd have to get orgy friends... Naw, I'm not ready for it.