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Old 05-23-2016, 06:45 PM   #14751
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What does he do after he doubles up?


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Old 05-23-2016, 06:46 PM   #14752
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If guys that bad are taking money out of those games the average player would do A LOT better taking $10 baccarat flips.
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:58 PM   #14753
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What does he do after he doubles up?

Guy in my player pool plays this short stack push bot style. Mostly he hit and runs between 1/3 and 2/5. If he doubles quickly he'll go to 1/2. The rule is 1 hr before you come in with a fresh buy in.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:07 PM   #14754
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Ugh, 1 hour is way too short. Should be at least 2, and preferably 3.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:12 PM   #14755
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What does he do after he doubles up?
He stays and plays the same strategy but not shoving. So if he plays a hand he'll put $50 in.

One day I walked in and he had $550. That's the most I've ever seen him have.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:14 PM   #14756
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Also this. He'll win a big pot wait a few hands then go walk around for 30 to 45 minutes.

When we had hot seat promotion every 3 hours for $200. He'd play, they'd draw a name at say 1. If he didn't swap % with people and hit he'd pick up and come back 30 minutes before the next drawing and sit down.

They don't do that anymore but that was his strategy.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:17 PM   #14757
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He stays and plays the same strategy but not shoving. So if he plays a hand he'll put $50 in.

One day I walked in and he had $550. That's the most I've ever seen him have.
So he'll shove $50 and if he has more than $50, he'll just bet $50?
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:18 PM   #14758
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Also this. He'll win a big pot wait a few hands then go walk around for 30 to 45 minutes.

When we had hot seat promotion every 3 hours for $200. He'd play, they'd draw a name at say 1. If he didn't swap % with people and hit he'd pick up and come back 30 minutes before the next drawing and sit down.

They don't do that anymore but that was his strategy.
Sounds like you need a better role model.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:22 PM   #14759
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Sounds like you need a better role model.
He's just one of the few characters at the place I play.

I buy in full. Am rarely there on the weekends when they do the promo drawings.

We are complete opposites but it's interesting to see his success the way he does it.

Yeah pretty much if he bets $50 he's just telling the table he's committing to the hand.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:23 PM   #14760
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Success, eh, is that what you call it?
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:17 PM   #14761
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Success, eh, is that what you call it?
Nothin but cheap parlor tricks
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:19 PM   #14762
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Nothin but cheap parlor tricks
Exactly this.

I just play my game. He plays his his way.
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:45 PM   #14763
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Alright guys, we can all drop the act. It's been fun and all, but HellofAPlaya just outted us -- there are in fact NO poker pro's.

We can all go home now.
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:47 PM   #14764
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:15 AM   #14765
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Funniest thing about these so-called crushers is how bad they are in HH discussions.

Makes me wonder, but maybe they're just trolling.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:54 AM   #14766
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:19 AM   #14767
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Funniest thing about these so-called crushers is how bad they are in HH discussions.

Makes me wonder, but maybe they're just trolling.
Or maybe, just maybe, its possible that they are doing things that work that you refuse to believe will work. I love the old "they will never call with anything that you beat" I could give HH after HH where they called a massive bet with a worse hand.

Hero opens to $25 with AK. Button and BB call.
Flop K73 with FD. BB checks, hero checks, button bets $80. BB calls $80. Hero shoves $450. Button folds. UTG calls $450.

Turn and river are both Q's. BB mucks when I show.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:23 AM   #14768
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Or maybe, just maybe, its possible that they are doing things that work that you refuse to believe will work. I love the old "they will never call with anything that you beat" I could give HH after HH where they called a massive bet with a worse hand.

Hero opens to $25 with AK. Button and BB call.
Flop K73 with FD. BB checks, hero checks, button bets $80. BB calls $80. Hero shoves $450. Button folds. UTG calls $450.

Turn and river are both Q's. BB mucks when I show.
Not that it matters, but you could have been behind when you shoved and he called.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:24 AM   #14769
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Not that it matters, but you could have been behind when you shoved and he called.
Behind to what? K7, K3 or 73? Come on, seriously? He thought about it for a good minute. No way he had one of those hands and didnt check raise the flop himself.

People just assume that if you make a large over bet all in (and are under 50) that you have a flush draw.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:25 AM   #14770
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73, K7, K3. But yeah.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:39 AM   #14771
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The irony is that if he lost the hand, he wouldn't sight it as an example and he would chalk it up to bad variance rather than poor play
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:46 AM   #14772
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You don't know if that player had a worse hand. A pair and a flush draw could be even money or slightly ahead of AK in that spot.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:47 AM   #14773
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The irony is that if he lost the hand, he wouldn't sight it as an example and he would chalk it up to bad variance rather than poor play
If he had KQ, I would
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:58 AM   #14774
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You don't know if that player had a worse hand. A pair and a flush draw could be even money or slightly ahead of AK in that spot.
That's true, but if that's what he had it means his call was correct. It doesnt mean my all in was bad. The point is that I win a lot of big pots by shoving in spots where everyone here would say its stupid because I will never get called by worse but they do. That was just one example.

$5/$10 the other day.

UTG limps, I limp UTG+2 with KK because the button raises every time. Button makes it $45. SB calls. UTG calls. I reraise to $155. Folds back to UTG who calls. What does someone limp UTG with, then call $45, then call $155? Who the hell knows.

Flop T76 with FD. He checks. I shove for about $650. He tank calls.
Turn 3
River 4
Flush draw gets there. He mucks when I show.

So he called with what? The best I think he can have there is 99 and had a pair and gutshot and 3-1 dog to an overpair or TP all the while thinking he could be ahead and hoping I had overcards?
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:02 AM   #14775
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Behind to what? K7, K3 or 73? Come on, seriously? He thought about it for a good minute. No way he had one of those hands and didnt check raise the flop himself.

People just assume that if you make a large over bet all in (and are under 50) that you have a flush draw.

Solid empirical evidence that we've all got it wrong. Irrefutable.
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