Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

05-12-2016 , 08:34 PM
Idk, a lot of rich recs that I play with love talking about some strat, hands, and stuff like "haha he checked the flop so I tried to pile in 3k with 6 high!!!, I didn't think he had the nuts in his range"

I don't ever really delve into specific stuff like range merging, capping ranges etc etc, but it keeps them entertained to chime in on basic stuff.

That being said, I would NEVER go out of my way to try and talk strat, and I do try to avoid it.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-12-2016 , 08:46 PM
What's range merging?
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-12-2016 , 08:47 PM
Who knows man, how about that FOOTBALL GAME THO
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-12-2016 , 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spikeraw22
What's range merging?
Triple range-merge?
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-12-2016 , 08:48 PM
OMG I took Dallas with the points.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-12-2016 , 11:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spikeraw22
What's range merging?
Looool my first thought when i read his post!!!
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-13-2016 , 04:13 AM
The east cost (places like AC and Philadephia) have got to be the worst places to play in the country when it comes to grinders talking strat. I honestly feel bad for anyone who is forced to play there since there are so many softer places to play all over the country.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-13-2016 , 11:00 AM
Whenever people try to talk strat I just say generic vague fishy stuff that everyone else says.

"That's tough to fold." (Easy fold)
"You had to call." (You had to fold)
"I got lucky. I'm not good enough to fold." (I played optimally and you didn't)
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-13-2016 , 11:40 AM
Related note: I constantly lie about what I had. Like 20 times/session. People still believe me though. I try to remember this when someone volunteers their hand without showing. I consider myself to be very honest. If I am FOS then probably everyone is too.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-13-2016 , 12:07 PM
"I had Ace-King."
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-13-2016 , 12:13 PM
I usually select the best possible hand that lost.


Or the nuts if I won and mucked.

It's especially fun to select hands that make absolutely no sense.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 02:00 AM
Hey guys i'm a long time lurker, first time poster, sorry for the upcoming wall of text. I started grinding 2/5 full time about a year ago and have learned a lot from reading HH's so for that I must thank you guys. I've never bothered to add any feedback because my opinion on the hand is already more or less represented (usually fold pre ).

After a recent downswing I started analyzing/filtering my stats a bit more and found something I couldn't believe and have no explanation for. Any feedback would be HUGELY appreciated.....

I live in a major North American city with 2 casinos. I generally divide my time pretty evenly between the 2 to keep from feeling like i'm in a robotic routine. What I found after 2k+ hours is my winrate is drastically different between the 2 even though the rake is similar and the player pool is very interchangeable. (side note: I actively table select when possible and always try to get position on the obvious whales)

Casino 1 is downtown, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $10 + $1 for bbj, pretty much no comps whatsoever and food is expensive. This place is known to have a bit of a looser, gambly game but can definitely be dead and reg infested from time to time, usually only 2 or 3 tables to choose from. Here are my results from there:

[IMG][/IMG]

Casino 2 is in a suburb, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $14 + $1bbj, if you play enough basically your food is taken care of. This place is the classier of the two and will generally attract the more megalomaniac types with the sunglasses and pokerstar jackets (not necessarily crushers but most probably break even types) but there are still plenty of horrific players in the pool who make huge mistakes and give it away pretty easily. Always a minimum of 2 tables open and up to 6 on weekends. Here are my results:

[IMG][/IMG]


This can't just purely be "bad luck" at casino 2 can it? It does feel like I'm card dead/running bad there often plus the extra rake but can it really cut my WR by 2 thirds? Am i just a mediocre poker player with access to a juicy game ? I know there is something to be learned and an adaptation to be made but i just can't get a good perspective on it. If anybody has any wisdom to offer I would really appreciate it! Thanks!
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Sandbag
Whenever people try to talk strat I just say generic vague fishy stuff that everyone else says.

"That's tough to fold." (Easy fold)
"You had to call." (You had to fold)
"I got lucky. I'm not good enough to fold." (I played optimally and you didn't)
I say the first two of these or some variation thereof, all the time. I think fishy play should receive positive reinforcement.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 02:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidBurn
Hey guys i'm a long time lurker, first time poster, sorry for the upcoming wall of text. I started grinding 2/5 full time about a year ago and have learned a lot from reading HH's so for that I must thank you guys. I've never bothered to add any feedback because my opinion on the hand is already more or less represented (usually fold pre ).

After a recent downswing I started analyzing/filtering my stats a bit more and found something I couldn't believe and have no explanation for. Any feedback would be HUGELY appreciated.....

I live in a major North American city with 2 casinos. I generally divide my time pretty evenly between the 2 to keep from feeling like i'm in a robotic routine. What I found after 2k+ hours is my winrate is drastically different between the 2 even though the rake is similar and the player pool is very interchangeable. (side note: I actively table select when possible and always try to get position on the obvious whales)

Casino 1 is downtown, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $10 + $1 for bbj, pretty much no comps whatsoever and food is expensive. This place is known to have a bit of a looser, gambly game but can definitely be dead and reg infested from time to time, usually only 2 or 3 tables to choose from. Here are my results from there:

[IMG][/IMG]

Casino 2 is in a suburb, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $14 + $1bbj, if you play enough basically your food is taken care of. This place is the classier of the two and will generally attract the more megalomaniac types with the sunglasses and pokerstar jackets (not necessarily crushers but most probably break even types) but there are still plenty of horrific players in the pool who make huge mistakes and give it away pretty easily. Always a minimum of 2 tables open and up to 6 on weekends. Here are my results:

[IMG][/IMG]


This can't just purely be "bad luck" at casino 2 can it? It does feel like I'm card dead/running bad there often plus the extra rake but can it really cut my WR by 2 thirds? Am i just a mediocre poker player with access to a juicy game ? I know there is something to be learned and an adaptation to be made but i just can't get a good perspective on it. If anybody has any wisdom to offer I would really appreciate it! Thanks!

That is some God awful rake at both casinos. If you think it won't affect your win rate, think of it this way. One casino is rakig about 50% more than the other. That being said, if the player pool is the same, you shouldn't see much difference in winrate other than the rake difference.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 02:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spikeraw22
That is some God awful rake at both casinos. If you think it won't affect your win rate, think of it this way. One casino is rakig about 50% more than the other. That being said, if the player pool is the same, you shouldn't see much difference in winrate other than the rake difference.
Thanks for the reply man, this is exactly what I always thought until i saw my results filtered. Where you able to see the screen caps if my tracker or did I mess it up?
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 04:27 AM
1k hours is not enough to determine your true winrate. It could even be $20 more than that.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 04:28 AM
What the **** is that rake jesus christ, might as well move to australia if you're going to pay $15/hand rake
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 07:54 AM
You say bi is 500 max but how do avg stack sizes compare in the two games.

500 cap is a deep 1/2 game so a higher we is possible but with that rake it's certainly possible you are running above expectation in the 2nd game.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 08:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
You say bi is 500 max but how do avg stack sizes compare in the two games.

500 cap is a deep 1/2 game so a higher we is possible but with that rake it's certainly possible you are running above expectation in the 2nd game.
Looks to me like hes playing 2/5...not 1/2.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 08:26 AM
Double post
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Looks to me like hes playing 2/5...not 1/2.

Jezus I gotta pay attention. Still on my first cup of coffee.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 08:33 AM
For comparison my casinos take max 6+1 and that seems high.
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 09:11 AM
$14 rake... Usurious?
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote
05-17-2016 , 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidBurn
Hey guys i'm a long time lurker, first time poster, sorry for the upcoming wall of text. I started grinding 2/5 full time about a year ago and have learned a lot from reading HH's so for that I must thank you guys. I've never bothered to add any feedback because my opinion on the hand is already more or less represented (usually fold pre ).

After a recent downswing I started analyzing/filtering my stats a bit more and found something I couldn't believe and have no explanation for. Any feedback would be HUGELY appreciated.....

I live in a major North American city with 2 casinos. I generally divide my time pretty evenly between the 2 to keep from feeling like i'm in a robotic routine. What I found after 2k+ hours is my winrate is drastically different between the 2 even though the rake is similar and the player pool is very interchangeable. (side note: I actively table select when possible and always try to get position on the obvious whales)

Casino 1 is downtown, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $10 + $1 for bbj, pretty much no comps whatsoever and food is expensive. This place is known to have a bit of a looser, gambly game but can definitely be dead and reg infested from time to time, usually only 2 or 3 tables to choose from. Here are my results from there:

[IMG][/IMG]

Casino 2 is in a suburb, $500 max, 9 handed, rake is %10 capped at $14 + $1bbj, if you play enough basically your food is taken care of. This place is the classier of the two and will generally attract the more megalomaniac types with the sunglasses and pokerstar jackets (not necessarily crushers but most probably break even types) but there are still plenty of horrific players in the pool who make huge mistakes and give it away pretty easily. Always a minimum of 2 tables open and up to 6 on weekends. Here are my results:

[IMG][/IMG]


This can't just purely be "bad luck" at casino 2 can it? It does feel like I'm card dead/running bad there often plus the extra rake but can it really cut my WR by 2 thirds? Am i just a mediocre poker player with access to a juicy game ? I know there is something to be learned and an adaptation to be made but i just can't get a good perspective on it. If anybody has any wisdom to offer I would really appreciate it! Thanks!
I would actually argue this goes back to my theory that 1,000 hours ain't ****.

GseriouslyG
Winrates, bankrolls, and finances Quote

      
m