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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

04-25-2016 , 11:02 AM
I count mine in totals, the drop comes out of my pots i win so I figure the bonus should come back in. Prolly totally wrong but thats how i do it.
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04-25-2016 , 05:31 PM
Obv. Siculamente sucks at reading souls, which is what live poker is all about after you learn the fundamentals.


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04-25-2016 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jimicornerstone
Obv. Siculamente sucks at reading souls, which is what live poker is all about after you learn the fundamentals.


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Being an atheist gives me an edge, as I have no soul to read.

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04-25-2016 , 05:35 PM
Nah, you just have a soul that prob spent 8+ yrs in Catholic school


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04-29-2016 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
I do have raw, negative feelings in general about poker/ gaming industry but that does not make me a bitter person, nor does it mean i don't make money playing poker. All it means is I have a realistic, skeptic view which is good imo.

its funny that people focus on / only comment about my tone and don't want to get into a debate or refute facts or some realistic viewpoints i've made in this thread. much easier to blast away at low hanging fruit to discredit someone

i guess on this forum if a person isn't stroking someones genius/ ego it must mean they are a bitter conceited hater. tbh if you can't look past my tone and try to look objectively and realistically at the facts- taking in information from all sides then you guys need to grow some skin.

squid- i never said you weren't good at poker or that your winrate was attributed to only running hot. if you think that way then please reread what i said itt. however i did imply that you have a huge ego if you think 10bb/hr is normal and sustainable without requiring any kind of run good (and theres lots of different forms of run good u kno that).

again, having a good dose of skepticism is important especially for those looking at this forum and wanting to get their feet wet in poker.

nobody has to or even should take everything i say as truth. nor should they blindly believe what squid or anyother person itt says is a normal wr. take in all the information available (i suggest skimming other sub forums ie mid hi fr) i'm just even more skeptical than usual taking someones word who is looking for some kind of recognition/ ego boost, and doesn't address things head on and instead words his way around or just completely ignores it... especially in this industry

now i guess the joke is on me from even attempting to reason with people on a gambling forum that MAYBE being objective and realistic is the best approach. however i htink its worth it to try even if only one person lurking this thread stops dreaming and starts thinking.

edit: there certainly are people who average 10bb/hr over a large samples. It's an outlier that requires unparalleled work ethic and of course some run good. some people do actually make a living/ raise a family on poker- again an outlier.

take a step back and look at an even bigger picture. someone making 10bb/hr or $50/hr at 2/5 is only making roughly the equivalent of ~50k compared to a real job. somebody busting their ass for 50k and being middle aged sucks considering all the other great opportunities there are. just all my opinion tho

and ya i come off as an ass, but im not asking anyone to be my buddy. im asking people itt to think objectively/ for themselves. gl everyone
$50/hr equates to 100k a year if working the same amount of hours as a "real" job, not 50k a year.
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04-29-2016 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
$50/hr equates to 100k a year if working the same amount of hours as a "real" job, not 50k a year.
As a self employed person, 100k a year is roughly equivalent to a 50k a year normal job with full benefits, vacation time, etc.
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04-29-2016 , 04:48 PM
Not to mention poker is a lot more like a commission-only than hourly wage job.
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04-29-2016 , 05:32 PM
So would you rather make 50k a year at poker
or 50k a year at a real job?
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04-29-2016 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
So would you rather make 50k a year at poker
or 50k a year at a real job?
The latter ainec.
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04-29-2016 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
As a self employed person, 100k a year is roughly equivalent to a 50k a year normal job with full benefits, vacation time, etc.
Can you explain this? 401k 6% employer match, health insurrance, bonuses , half SE tax, and paid vacation = 50k?
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04-29-2016 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mreps
Can you explain this? 401k 6% employer match, health insurrance, bonuses , half SE tax, and paid vacation = 50k?
My wife gets a "Total Compensation" breakdown every year, and it's pretty darn close. By the time you factor in risk, I would call them equal.
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04-29-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
So would you rather make 50k a year at poker
or 50k a year at a real job?
Both ldo
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04-30-2016 , 01:06 AM
$50/hr / 10bb/hr crusher on the felt sure means a whole lot- at least to degens and aspiring pros.

Does 50k/yr mean anything off the felt? No. It doesn't.
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04-30-2016 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
$50/hr / 10bb/hr crusher on the felt sure means a whole lot- at least to degens and aspiring pros.

Does 50k/yr mean anything off the felt? No. It doesn't.
Once again, $50/hr is about $100K per year, not $50k per year. Making $100K per year is nothing to sneeze at on OR off the felt.

It puts you in the top 10% of income earners in the US.

We can debate the pros and cons of things like lack of benefits, freedom, having no boss, and flexibility but money wise....if you can make $50/hr you are winning at life.
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04-30-2016 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
As a self employed person, 100k a year is roughly equivalent to a 50k a year normal job with full benefits, vacation time, etc.

This is not true at all. Certainly it is more "expensive" to be self employed but it is nowhere near this ratio
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04-30-2016 , 09:27 AM
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Both ldo

Excellent idea!
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04-30-2016 , 09:31 AM
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This is not true at all. Certainly it is more "expensive" to be self employed but it is nowhere near this ratio

I'm also going to add... And I'm going out on a limb here... That most proffessional gamblers who mainly play cash poker and made 50k this year have a tax return that looks a little different than that of a 50k wage earner.
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04-30-2016 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Once again, $50/hr is about $100K per year, not $50k per year. Making $100K per year is nothing to sneeze at on OR off the felt.

It puts you in the top 10% of income earners in the US.

We can debate the pros and cons of things like lack of benefits, freedom, having no boss, and flexibility but money wise....if you can make $50/hr you are winning at life.

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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
As a self employed person, 100k a year is roughly equivalent to a 50k a year normal job with full benefits, vacation time, etc.
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
My wife gets a "Total Compensation" breakdown every year, and it's pretty darn close. By the time you factor in risk, I would call them equal.
someone else itt is thinking like an adult
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04-30-2016 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Once again, $50/hr is about $100K per year, not $50k per year. Making $100K per year is nothing to sneeze at on OR off the felt.

It puts you in the top 10% of income earners in the US.

We can debate the pros and cons of things like lack of benefits, freedom, having no boss, and flexibility but money wise....if you can make $50/hr you are winning at life.

It's all relative...
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04-30-2016 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
someone else itt is thinking like an adult
I can't decide if you just want a pat on the back or if it's a hardworking attempt at getting more regs/potential winners out of the pool so you can win.

If you just want a pat on the back congrats for being a responsible adult and having a good job. NH.
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04-30-2016 , 07:41 PM
It can't be because I want strangers to make the best decisions they can based on all the information available to them?

I have to be either a sociopath or an egotistical prick?

I think others including myself are actually doing a lot of good by examining the numbers, explaining the FACTS. Things the average person in their 20s doesn't think about.

People are mad because they can't claim ignorance anymore.
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05-01-2016 , 02:16 AM
I now have +5BI. I took my make or break shot this weekend and came out ahead. Ill be adding a few buy ins next week off the table as well. I an now simply under rolled instead of roll less. God it feels good to be back on the felt.

Should I buy in for 100bb or the table max 150bb?
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05-01-2016 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
I now have +5BI. I took my make or break shot this weekend and came out ahead. Ill be adding a few buy ins next week off the table as well. I an now simply under rolled instead of roll less. God it feels good to be back on the felt.

Should I buy in for 100bb or the table max 150bb?
Table max!!!!!!! Select good tables

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05-01-2016 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
I now have +5BI. I took my make or break shot this weekend and came out ahead. Ill be adding a few buy ins next week off the table as well. I an now simply under rolled instead of roll less. God it feels good to be back on the felt.

Should I buy in for 100bb or the table max 150bb?
You've been around the block you know the drill. You'll either grind it up or hit negative variance and bust.
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05-01-2016 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
You've been around the block you know the drill. You'll either grind it up or hit negative variance and bust.
See my thread for lawlz I'm in the same situation right now and battling thru it

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