I think Phil Ivey would be smart enough to adjust his play to lower stakes capped buy in games....or he would lose also.

From what I saw from playing with him for a few hours in 2000-5000 HKD full ring you would be wrong. To him this is a small game but when I play a small game I dont take the blinds or post and then leave after playing the button. He did this repeatedly. Later we found out why since it was Black Friday. Anyway, he shouldn't have been playing just donating blinds to us. I only played one memorable hand with him. I open 3X from early with AK fish calls from MP reg calls from LP Ivey makes it 15X from the button. I want to play with the fish but not with Ivey OOP. Its just a matter of how big the fish is. I figure he's not big enough of a fish to get it in with me on the flop without flopping at least top pair so I ship it 100X. Everyone folds to Ivey he tanks for a few minutes as if he has a pair maybe in the range of 99 to JJ which is bad news for me since I didn't sell any pieces in this big game like I usually do. Eventually he folds and takes another phone call.

It's kind of like saying anyone who is smart will buy a car used instead of new. Anyone who thinks this doesn't realize how easy it is for some people to make money. Personally I have never bought a new car but I'm cheap. There are plenty of smart people that do.

Many of the other big name online nosebleeds players took some time to adjust to full ring also. For example, a lot of players like to isolate the fish and then often fire three smaller sized barrels since they are limping pre with such a weak range. They will be chasing with a wide range and often fold on the river. However the Macau fish are a different breed and some used to call all the way with any pair. Against these fish no one would let you iso as you are likely to get three bet.

Interesting post thanks

Yep, everyone likes to barrel against weak players who fold on river.

Nope, no one likes to barrel against weak players only to find out they have better hands on river.

Maybe, just maybe, try barreling with hands that can beat bluff catcher?

That isn't how I generally played the big games back in 2008-2011 because I didn't have the roll back then. Now that I have the roll those games dried up.

nice stats. what app is that?

RunGood. I have it on iOS, not sure if there is an android version

Just looked it up, doesn't seem like there is an android version. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a tracking app on android?

I use poker income on Android. Does what I need it to.

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I use Poker Session Logger on Android.

Can we make this thread a sticky?

It's linked in Best of LLSNL. What would making it a sticky do better?

Oh. Never mind, then.

thinly veiled brag ahead

Here's a recent (since October) sample that is 500+ hours and a 10bb/hr+ WR

Very nice , Homer

Some stats. Not large sample size in hours, but about most I can do over the past 6 months as a weekend warrior.

Giraffe is win\loss per session

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Looking at your numbers I come up with an estimate of about $38 per hour on Sat/Sun and $21 on weekdays. About 70% of your play is on weekends

That made me go back and look at my numbers. Mine weren't quite as drastic as yours but I do have about 50% better win rate on weekends but I only play about 30% on weekends. I estimate that if I played 70% on weekends, my win rate could raise another 25% or so. Interesting.

Too small of sample size to draw such conclusion.

Probably so, but it would be nice to have a bunch of people break down their win rates by weekends and weekdays to see how many people have noticeably better win rates on weekends.

How unusual is it that I refuse to look at my stats? I know about how many hours I've got, but no clue about win rate or total profit.

Pretty sure that given higher number of players and likely non-regs that wander into poker room on weekends, weekend games are more profitable.

Pretty unusual to keep stat in the first place.

This - and after my kid graduated from high school I switched to a grave schedule for decent sized sample. My w/r increased significantly. Drunken shenanigans that just dont happen during the day go down on the regular.

I'd love to aggregate some detailed data from a bunch of players. No time though.

I concur with this assessment. Weekend games when/where the alcohol is flowing are the best games. I don't expect this to show up in everyone's stats though. The better games tend to have more money going in light, and one or two suck-outs in 200BB+ pots will torch your winrate when your sample is smallish.


What's the point of keeping them if you're not using them?

I'll look at them eventually, when I get a meaningful sample.

I've actually got a pretty large sample (>2k hours), but it's a weird jumble dating back a few years and doesn't really offer any real info.