Would you be willing to private message me with where? I'm just curious. I live/play in Ohio.

Where is that damn fish on a heater pic? I can never find it when I need it.

Yes. Pm cheat code plz.

Lolz!

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I heard someone talking about a bubble...

All 1/2 and 2/5 pretty standard in terms of straddle frequencies


Up until Feb 15th
Hours 281.8
Profit $13.4k
Hourly $47.55

(I had another 250 hrs on my previous phone, want to say around $30/hr)

As of today
Hours 308.1
Profit $10,030
Hourly $32.54

Last winning session Feb 26th w 7 consecutive losses since. Also, I am playing again tonight PM me for directions to the money fountain.

Does anyone ever discuss the bankrolls and finances part?

No need. Everyone's solid.




I do have an interesting conundrum right now.

As most of you know I blew my entire roll on my wedding last summer and now can't justify taking $2k out of my life roll (wife not ok with that). So, I've been slowly saving on my own. I have ~2BI for 1/2 in a drawer. I also am steadily grinding up a roll online. Currently ~$350 on a site with decent cash out history.

Do I:
A) cash out online and combine rolls for a $750 shot to play live right now and risk not being able to play at all

B) wait another two months when I can have ~$8-900 without touching the online roll all while grinding that up as well.

C) Some combo of the two.

I personally would cash out online and take a shot live with 5 150 buyins

When I rebuilt my roll a few years ago after some huge life expenses

I took 5k and grinded 1/2 until I had 8k then went to 5/10 for a few shots when j was in the teens.

Not exactly the same, but I never felt in danger of losing more than a few buyins at 1/2 or 2/5.

The only reason I didn't go straight to 2/5 was bc I made a deal with my then wife if I busted the 5k I wouldn't play poker again.

Are you able to take anything out of your life roll? If you withdrew online roll and were able to take $500 from life roll you'd have 6 BI.

I "could" but it would require a conversation and if I got my way it would likely cost me significant life equity in other areas. My best line is to not involve the life roll in any way so there is no claim on it other than my own. I don't want wife to have any vested interest in the roll. She doesn't really do well
With the concept of swings and I don't want to have to answer to her for it.

Is it as hard for her to have a hobby or buy things she wants as it is for you to get some money for poker? If not, she is being selfish.

As far as a claim on the money goes -- once you've got the money, it's been "spent" on your hobby. No different than a hobby or purchase of hers. The fact that in your hobby the money might last longer, temporarily (or permanently) multiply, etc. has no bearing.

+1

$500-1k may seem like a lot, but when you consider the fact that you probably will never have to withdraw ever again it shouldn't be a big deal. It should actually be preferred over any other hobby where you might be spending $50/month for years with no return.

2BI? You have a bankroll imo.

We're saving for a house so withdrawing for "gambling" will be a tough sell right now. Mostly I just don't want either of us to have the stress of telling/hearing about how the poker money is doing. I want to be able to just grow it like I know I can without being asked to use it on something else and she shouldnt have to worry about how much of our money I lost in a given night.

Solution: 100% my money which I'm perfectly willing to share once I climb out of the danger zone (queue Kenny logins).

I feel sorry for you. Your wife made you spend all your poker money and now you can't have any of it back. You should try to find some backers

Spike i am on board with what Miami said:


Withdraw online money so you have a decent amount of 150$ dollars buyin to fire at 1/2 live. You can rebuild it for sure, the softness of 1/2 live is just way better than struggling online for pennies. Imo before you know it you start if off with a couple of heater sessions and having 2K$.


Due to big change in living expences and some big downswings in deep playing homegames i have been busto couple of times=building up roll from pretty much zero. The way i did it was same as you, i saved up couple of buyins to fire at 1/2 or 1/3 or took couple of buyins out of my liferoll, and then just focused on playing my absolute best. If failed, then rinse and repeat until you get some roll going.

I've made a "career" out of building bank rolls from scratch. See my PG&C! Tris will be the last one. This one I'm building and keeping and playing off of until
I die (jumping off a parking garage if busto obviously).

I would go with option B. Being married I would keep my fun diversified.

This is a pretty big consideration for me. I can't just disappear to the card room for 6 hrs like I used to. I can however fire up 6 tables on the lap top while the wife vainly subjects me to a Bones marathon.

"Well honey investing in a house is kind of a gamble in itself."

yo spike - do you have a long term winning record? is it charted?

If it is have a meeting with your wife. Seriously. Schedule it and explain y this is a good investment from a biz standpoint. Dont b condescending but explain everything from soup to nuts about ev and all that other stuff. Also explain to her that it is important for you to play as a hobby etc.

When I furst got into the gambool I was not married. I explained everything to my woman (who I was with for 20+ years). I did my best to explain everything (bankroll, kelly, variance, etc). She is not math based at all. But she got it - kind of - and was incredibly supportive of my life as a gambooler.

Cocktail conversation is about the most annoying thing in the world when discussing advantage gambling. Everyone has a cousin or uncle who had a system. It is damn near impossible to convey how edge works. However, explaining it to a loved one if you are a winning player is not that tough

A pretty successful guy was playing poker and doing his usual spewing and roulette, came back one roulette session and discussed with another player about a roulette player's system.

Apparently the system was to bet every number, but bet some numbers bigger, so player never loses and will win big when he hit a certain number.

Both agreed that it is a good system, but it requires too much money to play it.

Take a decently successful person and throw him inside a casino, and somehow the casino would strip the person of anything intelligent.

Squid-

>$20/hr over 1000 hrs of 1/2 and good results in a very small 2/5 sample. It won't help. I've shown her my results and explained it all. She still calls it gambling. The real issue is that she doesn't like me being gone all the time to play. Combine that with the risk of losing real money and it just isn't gonna happen. She was there when I won a ton of money (relatively speaking) before we got married. She's ok with it and even amused by it when it carries no financial risk for her. In my mind hit carries very little but from her perspective there is significant risk. It's ok. I don't need a cheer leader. This is why it's important for me to build the roll independently so we avoid a whole mess of relationship issues. If I bust it's just my own disappointment that way.

Spike

I wanted to put another vote for taking 5 150 Bis to live. If you're playing really tight live and not pushing narrow margins you're probably going to be able to do pretty well with minimal risk. Most of the fish will be sitting on similar stacks anyway and even when you get into all in spots you're never missing out on more than $25 or so of overall equity and those spots only come up once every few hours, so your hourly shouldn't take a huge hit.

Let's say you can grind at $15/hr at 1/2 in the interim and your potential is maybe $20-$25 still avoiding high variance, but buying deeper, you double your BR in 50 hrs and probably only miss out on a maximum of $500 over that time frame. Relative to the risk in this case (being shut down) I think that's worth it.

I haven't played online in forever, but my inclination would be that this is way more worth it than trying to grind out $15/hr in a quarter/50 game online.