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Old 03-04-2016, 02:34 PM   #13826
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What are your game conditions like?
About 75% of the hours: Occasional straddles, average stack size probably 450ish. Mostly 1/3. Few whales, lots of fish.

About 25% of the hours: Vegas 1/2 and 1/3
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:40 PM   #13827
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average stack size probably 450ish

Few whales, lots of fish.
So more like a good $2/5 game than a $1/2 game. Call it 12 bb/hr then, or $24/hr at a typical $1/2 with mostly $200 stacks. Good winrate for a good/decent player on a heater. Really interested in seeing how long you can maintain this pace and if you'll hit the doomswitch.
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:43 PM   #13828
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Where do you play? What is the rake? How often do you tip the dealer? Hard to believe that hourly is even remotely sustainable unless the game plays really big. It's definitely not even close to achievable at my local room.
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:57 PM   #13829
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Where do you play? What is the rake? How often do you tip the dealer? Hard to believe that hourly is even remotely sustainable unless the game plays really big. It's definitely not even close to achievable at my local room.
Not going to answer where. Rake is normal 10% 4+1 and 6+1. Tip $1 on hands won after flop.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:04 PM   #13830
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Sick results Donkey!

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Old 03-04-2016, 03:35 PM   #13831
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So more like a good $2/5 game than a $1/2 game. Call it 12 bb/hr then, or $24/hr at a typical $1/2 with mostly $200 stacks. Good winrate for a good/decent player on a heater. Really interested in seeing how long you can maintain this pace and if you'll hit the doomswitch.
Good job differentiating that WR has less to do with blinds than average stack sizes.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:51 PM   #13832
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Not going to answer where. Rake is normal 10% 4+1 and 6+1. Tip $1 on hands won after flop.
Would you be willing to private message me with where? I'm just curious. I live/play in Ohio.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:44 PM   #13833
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Where is that damn fish on a heater pic? I can never find it when I need it.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:06 PM   #13834
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Where is that damn fish on a heater pic? I can never find it when I need it.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:16 PM   #13835
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Yes. Pm cheat code plz.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:28 PM   #13836
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Old 03-04-2016, 06:20 PM   #13837
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I heard someone talking about a bubble...

All 1/2 and 2/5 pretty standard in terms of straddle frequencies


Up until Feb 15th
Hours 281.8
Profit $13.4k
Hourly $47.55

(I had another 250 hrs on my previous phone, want to say around $30/hr)

As of today
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Hourly $32.54

Last winning session Feb 26th w 7 consecutive losses since. Also, I am playing again tonight PM me for directions to the money fountain.
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:47 AM   #13838
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Does anyone ever discuss the bankrolls and finances part?
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Old 03-05-2016, 11:38 AM   #13839
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Does anyone ever discuss the bankrolls and finances part?
No need. Everyone's solid.




I do have an interesting conundrum right now.

As most of you know I blew my entire roll on my wedding last summer and now can't justify taking $2k out of my life roll (wife not ok with that). So, I've been slowly saving on my own. I have ~2BI for 1/2 in a drawer. I also am steadily grinding up a roll online. Currently ~$350 on a site with decent cash out history.

Do I:
A) cash out online and combine rolls for a $750 shot to play live right now and risk not being able to play at all

B) wait another two months when I can have ~$8-900 without touching the online roll all while grinding that up as well.

C) Some combo of the two.
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Old 03-05-2016, 11:43 AM   #13840
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I personally would cash out online and take a shot live with 5 150 buyins

When I rebuilt my roll a few years ago after some huge life expenses

I took 5k and grinded 1/2 until I had 8k then went to 5/10 for a few shots when j was in the teens.

Not exactly the same, but I never felt in danger of losing more than a few buyins at 1/2 or 2/5.

The only reason I didn't go straight to 2/5 was bc I made a deal with my then wife if I busted the 5k I wouldn't play poker again.
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:11 PM   #13841
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No need. Everyone's solid.




I do have an interesting conundrum right now.

As most of you know I blew my entire roll on my wedding last summer and now can't justify taking $2k out of my life roll (wife not ok with that). So, I've been slowly saving on my own. I have ~2BI for 1/2 in a drawer. I also am steadily grinding up a roll online. Currently ~$350 on a site with decent cash out history.

Do I:
A) cash out online and combine rolls for a $750 shot to play live right now and risk not being able to play at all

B) wait another two months when I can have ~$8-900 without touching the online roll all while grinding that up as well.

C) Some combo of the two.
Are you able to take anything out of your life roll? If you withdrew online roll and were able to take $500 from life roll you'd have 6 BI.
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:30 PM   #13842
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I "could" but it would require a conversation and if I got my way it would likely cost me significant life equity in other areas. My best line is to not involve the life roll in any way so there is no claim on it other than my own. I don't want wife to have any vested interest in the roll. She doesn't really do well
With the concept of swings and I don't want to have to answer to her for it.
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:39 PM   #13843
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Is it as hard for her to have a hobby or buy things she wants as it is for you to get some money for poker? If not, she is being selfish.

As far as a claim on the money goes -- once you've got the money, it's been "spent" on your hobby. No different than a hobby or purchase of hers. The fact that in your hobby the money might last longer, temporarily (or permanently) multiply, etc. has no bearing.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:05 PM   #13844
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Is it as hard for her to have a hobby or buy things she wants as it is for you to get some money for poker? If not, she is being selfish.

As far as a claim on the money goes -- once you've got the money, it's been "spent" on your hobby. No different than a hobby or purchase of hers. The fact that in your hobby the money might last longer, temporarily (or permanently) multiply, etc. has no bearing.
+1

$500-1k may seem like a lot, but when you consider the fact that you probably will never have to withdraw ever again it shouldn't be a big deal. It should actually be preferred over any other hobby where you might be spending $50/month for years with no return.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:14 PM   #13845
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No need. Everyone's solid.




I do have an interesting conundrum right now.

As most of you know I blew my entire roll on my wedding last summer and now can't justify taking $2k out of my life roll (wife not ok with that). So, I've been slowly saving on my own. I have ~2BI for 1/2 in a drawer. I also am steadily grinding up a roll online. Currently ~$350 on a site with decent cash out history.

Do I:
A) cash out online and combine rolls for a $750 shot to play live right now and risk not being able to play at all

B) wait another two months when I can have ~$8-900 without touching the online roll all while grinding that up as well.

C) Some combo of the two.
2BI? You have a bankroll imo.

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Old 03-05-2016, 02:33 PM   #13846
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We're saving for a house so withdrawing for "gambling" will be a tough sell right now. Mostly I just don't want either of us to have the stress of telling/hearing about how the poker money is doing. I want to be able to just grow it like I know I can without being asked to use it on something else and she shouldnt have to worry about how much of our money I lost in a given night.

Solution: 100% my money which I'm perfectly willing to share once I climb out of the danger zone (queue Kenny logins).
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:35 PM   #13847
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I feel sorry for you. Your wife made you spend all your poker money and now you can't have any of it back. You should try to find some backers
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:47 PM   #13848
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Spike i am on board with what Miami said:


Withdraw online money so you have a decent amount of 150$ dollars buyin to fire at 1/2 live. You can rebuild it for sure, the softness of 1/2 live is just way better than struggling online for pennies. Imo before you know it you start if off with a couple of heater sessions and having 2K$.


Due to big change in living expences and some big downswings in deep playing homegames i have been busto couple of times=building up roll from pretty much zero. The way i did it was same as you, i saved up couple of buyins to fire at 1/2 or 1/3 or took couple of buyins out of my liferoll, and then just focused on playing my absolute best. If failed, then rinse and repeat until you get some roll going.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:52 PM   #13849
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I've made a "career" out of building bank rolls from scratch. See my PG&C! Tris will be the last one. This one I'm building and keeping and playing off of until
I die (jumping off a parking garage if busto obviously).
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:53 PM   #13850
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I would go with option B. Being married I would keep my fun diversified.
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