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Old 02-28-2016, 05:31 PM   #13751
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What does WR mean?
Wide receiver obv
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:41 PM   #13752
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:02 PM   #13753
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I always go on heaters in my last 8 hrs of the week.
My last 8 hours are usually a downswing. Maybe I'll cut my hours and make more money.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:19 PM   #13754
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So I went to play today with the intention to play 8 hours of 1/2 to see what i could do. I found out that my hand reading ability is terrible, but i have now confirmed that the maximum achievable winrate at 1/2 is -175$ per hour.

#TryhardFailure

ill upload my stats for this year in a little
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:28 PM   #13755
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230 hours so far this year
45 an hour mostly 2/5

side note don't play when your tooth hurts and you need a root canal, derp. #WorstDownswingEver
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:36 PM   #13756
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Well I mean if you make $20 an hour the extra 400 hours amounts to 8k which maxes out an IRA contribution and probably covers most peoples health ins and then some
$20/hr * 400 hrs = $8000

On that $8000...

Gonna pay taxes? 20% is $1600

Gonna eat? $10/8hrs is $500

Travel costs? $5/8hrs is $250

$8000 - 1600 - 500 - 250 = $5650

400 hrs is 50, 8hr sessions. That's two months rent @ $600/mo. Now we're down to $4450.

Don't think there's going to be any room for health insurance or a RothIRA contribution.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:23 PM   #13757
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I'm not a fan of factoring in food, gas, taxes, etc. into win rates. People with "normal" jobs drive to work, pay taxes, and eat, yet when asked what they make they don't factor in all those costs.

Obv don't ignore all those things. A little common sense will tell if you it's worth it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:44 PM   #13758
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I'm not a fan of factoring in food, gas, taxes, etc. into win rates. People with "normal" jobs drive to work, pay taxes, and eat, yet when asked what they make they don't factor in all those costs.

Obv don't ignore all those things. A little common sense will tell if you it's worth it.
You missing something...
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:59 PM   #13759
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Hookers and blow, ldo
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:04 AM   #13760
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I was curious if everybody else factors in costs of blow into WR seeing as how my A game can only be achieved with it. Hookers I'm unsure of
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:14 AM   #13761
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$45.00 per hour pre blow
$6.36 per hour post blow
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:16 AM   #13762
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I thought hookers and blow is the reason we all played. Never considered actually incorporating them into my game. Thanks 2p2.
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:50 AM   #13763
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I was curious if everybody else factors in costs of blow into WR seeing as how my A game can only be achieved with it. Hookers I'm unsure of
I consider adderal as a cost of doing business
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:18 AM   #13764
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So anyone with those big downswings want to tell me how much they attribute to bad play and how much was runbad?


#ForScience
I recently lost about 8 buyins over 4 sessions over 3 days.

The first 3 buyins were about 80 percent bad luck. Getting a couple of big draws and getting it in correctly. However, they were easily hands I could have no played preflop but elected to play.

The next buyin was greed.

The next 4 buyins was 80 percent play bad.

Mostly, I attribute each individual loss to run bad, but anything that losts longer is more likely bad play. And I know when I have played less than my A or B game.

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Is there a consensus on what's considered CRUSHING at 1/2?
$20+/hr is excellent. $30+ is crushing.

Just my opinion.
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Old 02-29-2016, 08:57 AM   #13765
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February was an interesting month



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Old 02-29-2016, 09:34 AM   #13766
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OGs call that eatin' like a bird and ****tin' like an elephant (not counting the +1700 sesh there).
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:04 AM   #13767
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I make the hookers bring the blow. $$ saved.
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Old 02-29-2016, 03:13 PM   #13768
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Plus there is a multitude of success stories of people making a living for decades playing poker. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't bother putting in 20 years in the Air Force. Sure, the retirement check is nice & paying only $24 a month for health insurance is sweet, however I'm sure I'd be playing high stakes with Ivey now if I had gone into poker fulltime right out of high school. Oh well.
hahaha! this is gold.

guys, the crushers 4+ years ago didn't drop off the face of the planet because they retired to their private islands in the bahamas.

they didn't go from full time poker > pt poker / pt coaching > full time coaching because they just love teaching others and don't mind giving up their fulltime poker $100/hr job.

poker can be fun. poker can be profitable. but don't be delusional
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Old 02-29-2016, 03:20 PM   #13769
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Isn't part of being successful in poker is to be delusional, and a huge part?
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Old 02-29-2016, 03:54 PM   #13770
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Isn't part of being successful in poker is to be delusional, and a huge part?
Probably not any moreso than any other profession. Half the people I work with on a daily basis are delusional.
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Old 02-29-2016, 03:57 PM   #13771
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Old 02-29-2016, 04:35 PM   #13772
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Isn't part of being successful in poker life is to be delusional, and a huge part?
Fixed your post
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:20 PM   #13773
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Plus there is a multitude of success stories of people making a living for decades playing poker. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't bother putting in 20 years in the Air Force. Sure, the retirement check is nice & paying only $24 a month for health insurance is sweet, however I'm sure I'd be playing high stakes with Ivey now if I had gone into poker fulltime right out of high school. Oh well.
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hahaha! this is gold.

guys, the crushers 4+ years ago didn't drop off the face of the planet because they retired to their private islands in the bahamas.

they didn't go from full time poker > pt poker / pt coaching > full time coaching because they just love teaching others and don't mind giving up their fulltime poker $100/hr job.

poker can be fun. poker can be profitable. but don't be delusional
First time I've run across one of your posts that I can recall. I am certain, that anyone who has read my posts over the last 1 1/2 years, knows that I was not serious.

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Isn't part of being successful in poker is to be delusional, and a huge part?
And you know damn well that I was not serious! You just jumped on the gravy train for the sole purpose of pokin' fun at one your best friends!

Shame on you!

Every time I look at my bank account online & see that retirement check deposited like clockwork & that $24.xx withdrawal for health insurance, I pat myself on the back & smile.
Which reminds me! Tomorrow is the 1st
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Old 03-01-2016, 06:38 PM   #13774
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Playing in New Orleans that last few days. The only game is a 1/3 NL but you can buy in to match the biggest stack. The blinds are basically an afterthought in this game. Huge preflop raises in relation to the blinds.

About half the players are decent and the other half are totally clueless. I assume because its the lowest NL game they spread so there's a lot more fish in this game than the 2/5 game I normally play in (my place has 1/2) even though this game plays as big or bigger than my 2/5 games.

I can realistically see a $60+/hr win rate in this game for a really good player.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:25 PM   #13775
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It's no different than 1/2 uncapped game could potentially be bigger than 5/10 capped game.
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