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Old 03-25-2012, 02:12 PM   #1276
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no i blew %90 of my roll though in a month of BJ.

10k, lesson learned hopfully, cheaper than some people in the long run.

i have about $1500 right now, but am planning on getting a job and rebuilding/ getting back into a good mindset.
I have a mindset question for u. What motivated u to play BJ for a month? U know its a -EV game and u r giving away EV$ by sitting at the table. On a side note I am proud to say I have never played a floor game in my life.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:14 PM   #1277
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I played craps once for about 15 minutes. I'll never do that again and I'll never play a floor game ever again.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:19 PM   #1278
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I have a mindset question for u. What motivated u to play BJ for a month? U know its a -EV game and u r giving away EV$ by sitting at the table. On a side note I am proud to say I have never played a floor game in my life.
Because i started off winning (2-3k)and most of the time i would recoup poker losses to get off tilt. Then i started losing and betting heavy and lost 3k i had on me.

i was soooo tilted, i just wanted to get even then quit, it never happened after i brought 8k to the casino with me.

i am a 1-2 grinder and am confident i can rebuild, but trust me pit games are the devil, i got addicted simple as that.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:24 PM   #1279
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how do you keep track of tips? i need to do a better job of that.
easy - it is reflected in my stack. if i buy in for $300, win a $500 pot, tip dealer $5 bucks and leave my stack has $795 in it and that's what i log.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:38 PM   #1280
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tips are part of the rake for me, keeping track of tips just to boost my percieved winrate is bad for your game.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:07 PM   #1281
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This is from my 21st birthday in mid December

Profit/loss: $8,644.00
$/hour: $27.01
$/session: $116.81
Hours: 320
Cashed: 47/74 (63%)
$/hour Std dev. : $145.28

268 hours at 1/2, 40 at 2/5 and a few 1/3.

Br is around 6.5-7k due to spending money (ie beer and weed, full time college student)

My plan is to play 2/5 on Fridays and Saturday's. When I'm out of school for the summer hopefully I have the br to play 2/5 full time
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:29 PM   #1282
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Mudbutt how far is your traveling to a casino?
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:52 PM   #1283
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Mudbutt how far is your traveling to a casino?
At school 20 mins, at home 10. Pretty convenient
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:32 PM   #1284
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I've seen a lot of people asking about the tip thing. I just don't get it. My win-rate is a net figure, not a gross one. All of the expenses I incur while playing (tipping, eating, etc.) should come out of my win-rate.

FWIW Muddbutt you are in the area in terms of BR where I think its best to take a 2/5 shot> I know you are saying you have played some, but if I was you I would be playing 2/5 exclusively unless I lost a few buy-ins and then back down. It is a bit aggressive, but you have some buffer where you can lose a it and not jeopardize your roll for 1/2.

That assumes you can play well in a 2/5 game on a relatively short roll and obviously that you are a winner at 2/5 which isn't necessarily a given obviously.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:40 PM   #1285
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I've seen a lot of people asking about the tip thing. I just don't get it. My win-rate is a net figure, not a gross one. All of the expenses I incur while playing (tipping, eating, etc.) should come out of my win-rate.

FWIW Muddbutt you are in the area in terms of BR where I think its best to take a 2/5 shot> I know you are saying you have played some, but if I was you I would be playing 2/5 exclusively unless I lost a few buy-ins and then back down. It is a bit aggressive, but you have some buffer where you can lose a it and not jeopardize your roll for 1/2.

That assumes you can play well in a 2/5 game on a relatively short roll and obviously that you are a winner at 2/5 which isn't necessarily a given obviously.
The thing is, when I'm at school the closest casino 2/5 is a 1k max, and usually the biggest game in the room. I've played it a few times and Its much different than the 2/5 500 max I'm used to playing back home which is the 2nd lowest game in te room. Also, the roll is pretty much my life roll (was dead broke until my birthday, started with 500 buck br) so I'm being a little conservative. I will most likely be grinding the 2/5 500 max all summer and mixing in some 200-300 buck tournaments
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:48 PM   #1286
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no i blew %90 of my roll though in a month of BJ.

10k, lesson learned hopfully, cheaper than some people in the long run.

i have about $1500 right now, but am planning on getting a job and rebuilding/ getting back into a good mindset.
Way to go buddy,
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:04 PM   #1287
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Way to go buddy,

I'm going to have to chalk it up as a learning experience, all that money was profit from poker over 200 hours.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:46 PM   #1288
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I'm winning $49/hour at live poker over a 1355 hour sample.

http://deathdrone.com/poker has my entire spreadsheet, along with a graph and a few metrics.

I just found this thread, and from it discovered that I had been calculating my hourly stddev incorrectly for months. It seems that my hourly stddev is actually twice as high as I had previously thought. Meaning that my data is half as meaningful as I had thought, sigh.

Your graph was the most depressing thing I've ever read. How you have the right mindframe to be a winning poker player is beyond me. Get some help, seriously.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:20 PM   #1289
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Why lose the chance to win more, if you're properly rolled you should be salivating at the fact that ppl are putting their whole stacks in with KJ on a J hi flop. If you arent properly rolled then I can understand moving tables, but as you can see even though you'll lose less you won't win as much
No I am properly rolled for 1/2, but not for 2/5.

I was thinking that if I play a more conservative style with less money on the table, it would lessen the variance in building my roll up to the point where I have enough for 2/5, at which point I can then play normally. I know this leaves a bit of money on the table, but it is a more surefire way of making money (less risk/less reward).
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:30 PM   #1290
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I'm going to have to chalk it up as a learning experience, all that money was profit from poker over 200 hours.
seems like you have a gambling problem iyam. Might want to review exactly why you roll into a casino.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:42 PM   #1291
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I'm winning $49/hour at live poker over a 1355 hour sample.

http://deathdrone.com/poker has my entire spreadsheet, along with a graph and a few metrics.

I just found this thread, and from it discovered that I had been calculating my hourly stddev incorrectly for months. It seems that my hourly stddev is actually twice as high as I had previously thought. Meaning that my data is half as meaningful as I had thought, sigh.
[ x ] freak and a weird dude
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:01 AM   #1292
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Wow.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:06 AM   #1293
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seems like you have a gambling problem iyam. Might want to review exactly why you roll into a casino.
I have always played pit games fairly often but never for big money, i just got in the "ah Fu*k it" mood and went huge. I think i can quit, very confident in that. But i will not play pit games at all, even for minimums, which will help.

%100 poker from here on out.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:13 AM   #1294
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Wtf is wrong with bored atheist?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:15 AM   #1295
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Either he's out of his ****ing mind (and I guess I shouldn't say that cause it might get me on the hit list) or its some weird, elaborate level. i'm not sure which would be weirder.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:20 AM   #1296
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whats wrong with him? impressive results imo.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:23 AM   #1297
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:25 AM   #1298
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whats wrong with him? impressive results imo.
Yeah... Click around the website
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:36 AM   #1299
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jesus christ
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:37 AM   #1300
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Lmao, dude is serious. The girls he ****ed list is nothing to be posting about online.

Nice level
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