Ah, that's why I don't get it.

So this is my first time posting in this thread after reading for months. The fact that everyone boasts $20+/hour winrates at 1/2 and 1/3 is intimidating. When I talk to winning $5/10+ players they all say that they didn't win more than $12/hour when they were grinding up from $1/2. I realize I am running bad over a small sample size but I am probably only winning $10 or so an hour. Am I doing a lot wrong or are these $20/hour winrates just really unsustainable?

Absolutely, just that players who can beat 1/2 for $20/hr will not stay in 1/2 long.

How beatable is a 1/2 game with a 20bb buy-in?

Define beatable.

$3 an hour after the $1 tip...

I would be happy to break even in that game.

Hahaha
Anyone start playing live in so-cal?
My finances are a minimum wage job.
I have about $1,000 saved to start playing live.
I guess in that game.

It's a game for fun, not one to build a career out of poker.

If those same 5/10 players went back to playing $1/2 I promise you they'd now be able to beat similar games for $20+/hr
The reason most winrates dont stay that big is because nobody stays at 1/2 once they can crush it

Completely not. Only Commerce is winning in that game long term.

Actually most of them won't be able to beat it, because they think they're too good and will try to LAG it up.

What's more annoying than a know-it-all player at the table? A higher stake "pro."

The thinner you go the less you make for taking more risk/volatility. It's the same concept.

I call almost everyone a pu$$y, easier to understand?

But in poker terms, betting and raising are aggressive, check/calling is passive, it's that they only take the passive lines that make them boxes.

Ok so I hate the term crusher and beatable, and I'm also going to throw out an idea that will probably be highly disagreed upon, I think it is possible to win in every single session at 1/2 or 2/5.

for a game to have enough variance to change a 8 hour session so drastically it either has to be an extremely loose game were people are stacking off extremely light, think PLO, because I have never played in this good of a NLH game. Or the reverse a really hard game where players are good and one or two coolers is impossible to come back from in a single session, and if I was playing in this type of game I would get up and leave.

Most no limit games are somewhere in the middle and they are also very consistent and I personally believe that if I lose a single session chances are I made mistakes that I can learn from. Even if I do get coolered there are typically enough mistakes being made that I can recoup whatever was lost all within a single session.

I always say if I feel like I was running well or running bad, but if I lose I always feel like there are plays I could have made to make it a winning session

So never try to get better at poker, just sit at the table for more hours?

Point 1) Value betting thin will cause you to earn less because your volatility goes up? Wut? I'd like to get some of the high-limit crushers to chime in on that one.

Point 2) Calling down a big polarized river shove takes a certain amount of cajones. Not to mention, betting isn't always optimal. Maybe these guys who are "puss sissies" and are calling you down with top pair because you're too aggressive?

disagree. if you have a $200 max loss, you shouldn't go broke if you have a proper bankroll and never use poker income for anything else.

of course you aren't going to win $200 every day and you aren't going to lose $200 every day that isn't a winning day.

So strange. I can access this page, now that we have a new one, but page 127 shall forever remain a mystery.

Actually you could live in the suburbs, New Jersey or even Delaware.

Thanks.
What do you think can a decent good player archive? Barely breakeven?
With this kind of rake is better to play tag or lag? Lag players pay much more rake but there are so many weak tight people in this game I think we can steal the **** out of them.

Probably better that way...

You're either trolling or beyond help.

Well done or don't quit your day job, whichever applies.

I think everyone will actually agree that this is is not true except for completely brain dead people

If by "win" you mean "win or lose," then yes it is possible to win every session.