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Old 09-25-2015, 11:39 PM   #11051
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Is there a thread in this forum where giant red clown shoes aren't the standard?
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:17 AM   #11052
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I am always surprised to see this opinion constantly cycled through here. I am by no means some amazing wizard and I manage a 10bb/hr playing in my local 1/2 games(1700hrs since last Sept). I personally know of at least 2 other people who are beating it similarly as well (study group) and none of us cheat on our tracking apps.

Of course no one is beating 2nl for more than 20bb/100, but at 2nl there aren't many people who can't be bothered to open a poker book. I know of dozens of live rec regs (fish) who brag openly about never reading a poker book and happily 3b shove 200bbs with AA because they 'don't want to get drawn out on'.

Quite simply, the live games have enough overall bad players that the fish never have to worry about improving. They sit and trade $$ every night and then complain about other regs pulling "donkey plays" vs them and then do the exact same move in the same session. There arent mass multitablers and HUDs taking advantage of every single mistake they make and because of the pace of game, they lose MUCH slower than they would online.
1/2 in an easy room w deep stacks, fine. I'll pay that. But $20/hr w the variance isn't worth talking about for me. I'll admit, it is pretty amazing still that this can be done if what you're saying is true.

If it can be done at 2/4+, I'll eat my shoe.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:29 AM   #11053
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What the hell is .01/.02 ??!!?? Seriously?? Is that even considered poker????
I played with fake money back in the day on party poker, I made a mirrion dorrars.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:51 AM   #11054
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1/2 in an easy room w deep stacks, fine. I'll pay that. But $20/hr w the variance isn't worth talking about for me. I'll admit, it is pretty amazing still that this can be done if what you're saying is true.

If it can be done at 2/4+, I'll eat my shoe.
Did you not read the earlier posts? It is being done. Just because you're not good enough doesn't mean nobody else is
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:56 AM   #11055
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:02 AM   #11056
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1/2 in an easy room w deep stacks, fine. I'll pay that. But $20/hr w the variance isn't worth talking about for me. I'll admit, it is pretty amazing still that this can be done if what you're saying is true.

If it can be done at 2/4+, I'll eat my shoe.
FFS! Start eating. I just quoted PayForMySchool's 2.5K hours at 2/5 with results over 10BB/hr last night. Did you skip over that post because it didn't fit your prejudices?
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:43 AM   #11057
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My hourly rate for the last 19.5 hours was $249. Should I go pro? This was 2/5. Thanks
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:45 AM   #11058
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Yes!

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Old 09-26-2015, 03:24 AM   #11059
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My hourly rate for 2.5 hours yesterday was -$800/hr. You want half my profits?
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:54 AM   #11060
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Did you not read the earlier posts? It is being done. Just because you're not good enough doesn't mean nobody else is
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FFS! Start eating. I just quoted PayForMySchool's 2.5K hours at 2/5 with results over 10BB/hr last night. Did you skip over that post because it didn't fit your prejudices?
Going crazy on this guy because 1 guy is making that much proves what he's saying.

It's like when I say Carlos Beltran gets all of his RBIs when he's up or down 5 runs and it's the 7th inning or later and someone says "Don't you remember that 1 time 9 years ago he had the go ahead HR in the 8th against the Braves?" 1 clutch hit that you can recall in a 18 year career doesn't meet the threshold for clutch.

Not saying who's right and wrong but you guys aren't making the argument you think you're making.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:23 AM   #11061
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Not saying who's right and wrong but you guys aren't making the argument you think you're making.
Yes they are. If someone claims something is impossible, then only 1 case is needed to prove that it is not. Just because something is improbable for a vast majority of people does not mean it's impossible.



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And yes, if I can see a PI graph of 10bb/hr over 2k+ hours, I'll be the first to eat my words and say it's possible.

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If it can be done at 2/4+, I'll eat my shoe.
Please post video of you eating your shoe ITT.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:42 AM   #11062
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Going crazy on this guy because 1 guy is making that much proves what he's saying.

It's like when I say Carlos Beltran gets all of his RBIs when he's up or down 5 runs and it's the 7th inning or later and someone says "Don't you remember that 1 time 9 years ago he had the go ahead HR in the 8th against the Braves?" 1 clutch hit that you can recall in a 18 year career doesn't meet the threshold for clutch.

Not saying who's right and wrong but you guys aren't making the argument you think you're making.
i know it's just an example, but carlos beltran is pretty much the definition of clutch (if it exists, anyway)
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:12 AM   #11063
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Ive been waiting to see bip!'s $50+/hr 2-5 graph...
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Old 09-26-2015, 11:48 AM   #11064
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Damnit. I miscalculated my recent hourly. It was only $177 per hour for 27 hours. I am feel pretty ****ty. Not going pro.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:04 PM   #11065
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FFS! Start eating. I just quoted PayForMySchool's 2.5K hours at 2/5 with results over 10BB/hr last night. Did you skip over that post because it didn't fit your prejudices?
Actually I skipped over it because he said his WR was around $40/hr which isn't 10bb/hr at all?
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:04 PM   #11066
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Did you not read the earlier posts? It is being done. Just because you're not good enough doesn't mean nobody else is
You saying it's being done and not offering proof doesn't mean a lot to me.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:45 PM   #11067
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wow this thread is really bumming me out. Cuz my last eight thousand plus hours of winning at over 50 per hour at 2/5 are clearly not a large enough sample size AND I am destined to regress toward the mean and come back down to a MAX win rate of approx 25 per hour according to the perfessionalz in these boards. I hope I dont get my house repoed and wind up homeless...
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:09 PM   #11068
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This thread is already about a ~meaningless stat, but has really become stupid.

Believing online WRs relate to live WRs is a false premise; all conclusions which are drawn will be fallacious.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:09 PM   #11069
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wow this thread is really bumming me out. Cuz my last eight thousand plus hours of winning at over 50 per hour at 2/5 are clearly not a large enough sample size AND I am destined to regress toward the mean and come back down to a MAX win rate of approx 25 per hour according to the perfessionalz in these boards. I hope I dont get my house repoed and wind up homeless...
You can always come live in my basement.

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Old 09-26-2015, 01:20 PM   #11070
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As mentioned earlier, some of the reasons the two venues don't compare are the visibly drunken idiots who are just pushing chips into the pot because they like to see the splash, people exposing their cards, people misreading boards at showdown, people sitting down who literally know next to nothing about poker.

Two nights ago, a lady sits into my game and buys in for half the max. Second hand at the table she gets to the river with bets going in on every street. I can tell by the way she handles her chips that she has never been at a poker table before. She min raises the river over a bettor and gets called. She hesitantly shows ace hi and asks dealer "I have a flush, right?" She thought four red cards made a flush.

She buys in again and that money lasts about five minutes.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:28 PM   #11071
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Played a 6 hour session at 2/5 last night and won $7. I'm what you could call a "crusher."
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:41 PM   #11072
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Was in NOLA, a dude sat down next to me who just got out of jail and was high on a Molly.
The pot is 50 bucks, he bets 3 into it on the turn. A dude jokingly min raises to 6, and the guy on Molly folds. hahahaha That was pretty amazing.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:53 PM   #11073
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:06 PM   #11074
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Was in NOLA, a dude sat down next to me who just got out of jail and was high on a Molly.
The pot is 50 bucks, he bets 3 into it on the turn. A dude jokingly min raises to 6, and the guy on Molly folds. hahahaha That was pretty amazing.
Playing poker is the absolute last thing I'd want to do on molly.
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:12 PM   #11075
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Thats npt your poker giraffe... Thats the SP's 2008 crash.
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