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Old 09-21-2015, 03:08 PM   #10676
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Richard, buddy, I never said playing vs regs wasn't profitable. I said it was a mistake for a pro if they could switch to a softer table.

If I had to choose between playing against


A. a reg that I have hundreds of hours on, that will still do dumb stuff like incorrectly play trouble hands like and maybe pay off maybe 2 streets max value with for example tpgk

OR

B. Some unknown dude decked out in casino/ poker clothing and accessories, with a girlfriend sitting behind them, that's going to call off lots of money with top pair or second pair, draws, whatever. The kind of dude that will put money in drawing dead.


I'll choose option B every single time. For the simple reason that they make more mistakes for more money than a regular.

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You could just be blinded by variance, or maybe not understand where your money comes from. Or Maybe you're just bad at playing vs fish.

But then again this could just be a definition misunderstanding. ie if you're playing vs guys like option B and you're calling them "regs". They're not regs, they're just fish.


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Live poker is beautiful because you can still play vs guys like option B whereas online those types of guys are like unicorns. You just don't see them.

To pass up an opportunity to play option B players is crazy man.

I have nothing more to say about this.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:15 PM   #10677
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Buddy, playing fish is hard, bruh!

You gotta have hands and stuffs.
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:00 PM   #10678
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They also don't respect your raises
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:26 PM   #10679
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At a reg infested table last night plus one easy, obvious ATM . After ATM felted for 2nd time in short order, he said he'd be back. As the 10 minute limit approached, multiple regs start hassling the dealer to open the seat so waiting reg can sit.

Might be a reg definition in there somewhere.

Lol, yep. That mindset is pretty much the definition of a bad reg.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:35 PM   #10680
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I notice a lot of full ring no limit players even pros get really uncomfortable with the idea of playing short handed even for a little while even missing even just one seat. I find that their concern is telling of their play style, they need to make hands. You can use this to your advantage. other typical attributes of players who insist on playing at a full table are risk averse, don't adjust to position as much as they should ergo both their cut off and UTG range are similarly and pretty narrow. this is also they type of player vpiping 7 who is complaining the table is dead after 4 hands where no one calls his 7x opens

the old guy regfish who dont like playing short handed are not usually action either they are usually the ones just limping to try to make a hand and find that they get a better "price" to play multiway pots if they have 9 people dealt in also it makes limping strong hands seemingly more effective which is another favorite of this player type
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:40 PM   #10681
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Smartest thing is to adjust based on conditions, if not, second best would to create situations most favorable or be in one.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:54 PM   #10682
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smartest thing is to constant post **** thats too vague to disprove but doesn't really help anyone


then when anyone else posts anything accuse them of posting nonsense by tirelessly questioning their arguments without providing any counterarguments of my own.

thats how I tackle no limit holdem

unrelated does anyone know how to ignore a particular poster on these forums?
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:59 PM   #10683
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seriously I've posted on another forum ONLY in the off topic in which nothing was too stupid and in 3 years and 16k posts I've never seen a more prolific **** poster who consistently posts negative/irrelevant/needlessly argumentative/poorly written posts who hasn't been banned and frankly you post in and ruin almost every thread I lurk/try to contribute/post in and I am absolutely astonished that you aren't banned.

this forum is worse for having you and I hope you one day seek actual help. I've been in therapy for months and it was a huge step forward in my life maybe you should consider it.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:10 PM   #10684
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seriously I've posted on another forum ONLY in the off topic in which nothing was too stupid and in 3 years and 16k posts I've never seen a more prolific **** poster who consistently posts negative/irrelevant/needlessly argumentative/poorly written posts who hasn't been banned and frankly you post in and ruin almost every thread I lurk/try to contribute/post in and I am absolutely astonished that you aren't banned.

this forum is worse for having you and I hope you one day seek actual help. I've been in therapy for months and it was a huge step forward in my life maybe you should consider it.
Is that Lindsey? God she used to be so damn hot. I had a huge crush. Those were the days.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:30 PM   #10685
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Hey, don't blame me because you are not capable of seeing the value.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:39 PM   #10686
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Click on their name. Click on "user lists." Click on "add to ignore list."
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:49 PM   #10687
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At risk of inflating his ego.... RP is the most consistently on point poster in LLSNL imo.

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Old 09-21-2015, 08:50 PM   #10688
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Don't worry, it's already pretty inflated, thanks to mpethy.
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:07 PM   #10689
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Don't worry, it's already pretty inflated, thanks to mpethy.
*standing around holding a stick pin* hmm, whatever shall I do with this thing...
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:10 PM   #10690
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Honestly though, I don't have any ill intention when I post, but people tend to find anything that isn't aligned with what they want to hear as negative.
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:33 PM   #10691
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Just the nature of the forums imo. Everyone thinks they are awesome, and get really upset if someone tells them they still have a lot of work to do.

Between your posts and discussions with a friend, I finally realized that the nut peddlers (majority of 2+2?) are hardly profitable if at all. It's kind of depressing realizing how many people are playing thinking that they are profitable when they aren't. In my head, I had always assumed they were making like $20/hour at 2/5. Now I'm thinking they are lucky if they make $5.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:15 PM   #10692
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this forum is worse for having you and I hope you one day seek actual help. I've been in therapy for months and it was a huge step forward in my life maybe you should consider it.
It's interesting to me that people with problems think I have problems, and that people who frequent a gambling forum think that I am unhappy and need help.

You guys could be right, but would you listen to the people I just described if you were me?

I mean, shouldn't I be worried if all the fish at the poker agree with the way I think?
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:22 PM   #10693
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It's interesting to me that people with problems think I have problems, and that people who frequent a gambling forum think that I am unhappy and need help.

You guys could be right, but would you listen to the people I just described if you were me?

I mean, shouldn't I be worried if all the fish at the poker agree with the way I think?
Lol... now you are showing off.
Sometimes fish make good moves haha
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:56 PM   #10694
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smartest thing is to constant post **** thats too vague to disprove but doesn't really help anyone
Like this?...

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i won 940 today at 2/5

$83.64/h over 81 hours.




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Click on their name. Click on "user lists." Click on "add to ignore list."
In case I ever say something that was just said or don't post comebacks when trash insults me, it's because I must have the record for longest Ignore List.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:34 AM   #10695
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A "reg" is simply that. A regular. Someone who plays regularly. While not telling us much about their skill level, we can make some useful assumptions about this. For instance, one cannot be an absolutely atrocious player and be a "reg" over a large sample. People who consistently lose a lot of money stop playing.

Also since this is live poker, 90% of the "regs" are also going to be "fish". The other 10% being pros or people who could play professionally but choose not to.
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:58 AM   #10696
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Between your posts and discussions with a friend, I finally realized that the nut peddlers (majority of 2+2?) are hardly profitable if at all. It's kind of depressing realizing how many people are playing thinking that they are profitable when they aren't. In my head, I had always assumed they were making like $20/hour at 2/5. Now I'm thinking they are lucky if they make $5.
Really just a matter of finding good games. I think a nitty TAG on autopilot could beat my regular game for >10BB/hr.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:12 AM   #10697
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People who consistently lose a lot of money stop playing.
I don't think casinos would exist if this were true.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:11 AM   #10698
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I don't think casinos would exist if this were true.
Sure they'd exist. There's a difference between guys who are marginal losers or breakeven and then the whales spewing plenty every time. The whales cannot last. People who "reg" a poker room are usually going to be part of the former group, otherwise they'd be less likely to frequent the room.

That said, you see a lot of ridiculously horribad **** from regs.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:48 AM   #10699
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Really just a matter of finding good games. I think a nitty TAG on autopilot could beat my regular game for >10BB/hr.
Nitty, TAG is not what I'm talking about. That's what they think they are, but they are really just weak tight and refuse to fold overpairs vs. fish.

10bb/hr is exceptionally rare in a casino environment (you mean home game?) so I really doubt that even a nitty TAG could really be that profitable. I've recently come to realize that everyone is making way less than I thought.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:55 AM   #10700
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Nitty, TAG is not what I'm talking about. That's what they think they are, but they are really just weak tight and refuse to fold overpairs vs. fish.

10bb/hr is exceptionally rare in a casino environment (you mean home game?) so I really doubt that even a nitty TAG could really be that profitable. I've recently come to realize that everyone is making way less than I thought.
Kookiemonster is right about it being about the game. Despite him always thinking I'm trolling, I really am amazed at his games. And yes, a nitty TAG on autopilot, able to fold overpairs or not, could absolutely beat his game for 10 bb per hour.
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