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Old 08-02-2015, 02:37 PM   #9801
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If the choice is between making $50/hr at 1/2 and $50/hr at 2/5 only a true ****ing idiot would play 2/5.

Small pool with regs can be a hassle only because it's harder to get paid off playing ABC so you gotta bluff more etc.
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:45 PM   #9802
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you were speaking about me right?


I've seen the regs avoid you thing. I've also see regs start playing like ass clowns trying to sate their egos against you. As P4MS says, it evens out.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:42 PM   #9803
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If you're the very cream of the crop top 1-3 players of a small ish player pool, there is a reverse trend that happens once you adapt to the regs adapting to your game. Sure for a short period of time before this happens there will be a adjustment period where you don't make as much as you did when you first started, i acknowledge that. But once you really pinpoint the way players really perceive you, it doesn't matter much anymore; you can figure out ways to exploit that and thus your winrate goes back ⬆️⬆️
Yep, was speaking in general.

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Old 08-02-2015, 04:47 PM   #9804
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While I'll pull for you to continue to crush, I put the o/u at when you'll laugh at yourself for this statement at 50 more hours.
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:49 PM   #9805
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i won $110/h over my last 140 hour sample in a 1/2 500max with 5otb and you can buy in for the biggest stack

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Old 08-02-2015, 05:01 PM   #9806
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That's a big game with small blinds.
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:05 PM   #9807
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yeah it is your average friday night there are 4-7 1k stacks so I just buy in to cover the table and wait out huge mistakes. my biggest win in the game was like a year and a half ago i won 2300. it wasn't in that sample though, it was back when I was playing mostly higher stakes and I showed up just to play with my friend
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:08 PM   #9808
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is this the sort of thread you can post brag stack pics or will that just get me mocked by one uppers and bitter broke people? I've read a few pages of this thread it seems really positive but I also haven't seen anyone post anything like that.
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:10 PM   #9809
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Who is the girl in the avatar pic? Post some more of those pics w/ the chip pr0n and all will approve
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:11 PM   #9810
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Brag works best on those you think are below you, hence I see why you want to post here.
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:15 PM   #9811
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is this the sort of thread you can post brag stack pics or will that just get me mocked by one uppers and bitter broke people? I've read a few pages of this thread it seems really positive but I also haven't seen anyone post anything like that.
You can post pretty much whatever you want. The troll convention does ride through town pretty frequently though. You'll know them when you see them. They'll look and act like trolls.

Personally I would love a picture of chips that someone won atm.the past 7 sessions the only chips I've seen in front of me have been ones I've purchased and they keep running away from me like a 7 year old w his mother from a shady ice cream truck run by someone who looks like the clown from Devils Rejects
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:19 PM   #9812
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I dunno but if youre going to post chip porn it needs to be like minimum 300bb. I think someone posted like a $800 stack at 2/5 and got trolled for it.



That was my first shot at 5/10. I remember texting my friend afterwards "I'm pretty confident that any two cards can be played profitably in position, assuming you have a postflop edge on your opponents." Jesus Christ I was an idiot.

I started off $70/hr for first 150 hrs at 2/5/10. Now at 380 hrs, my winrate is lower than my 1/2 winrate (600 hrs).

Stay humble Johnny B

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Old 08-02-2015, 05:39 PM   #9813
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I dunno but if youre going to post chip porn it needs to be like minimum 300bb. I think someone posted like a $800 stack at 2/5 and got trolled for it.



That was my first shot at 5/10. I remember texting my friend afterwards "I'm pretty confident that any two cards can be played profitably in position, assuming you have a postflop edge on your opponents."

Jesus Christ I was an idiot. Stay humble Johnny B
given the right table/era in poker/stack depth that might have been true but given that you felt the need to say it it most likely wasn't true.

sick picture though solid submission.



this is slightly more than 300 bb, thinking it's around 2000bb

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you know whats a true story about this girl? I met her on omegle in 2009 and its just an actual picture of her, then we disconnected. I've never known anyone who can identify her because she isn't a model she is just a randomly super beautiful redhead. will post full sized pic

I always use this picture because I was kinda famous for it on the now defunct MLG forums posted like 12,000 posts in 2.5 years like a huge nerd.



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Brag works best on those you think are below you, hence I see why you want to post here.
I've seen you post tons on these forums and it seems like all you do is say negative things and try to upset people and I'm cool with that because I LOVE hassling people but just so you know hence and why are basically the same word so you can just say "hence you posting here", or "which is why you are posting here". but you just said why i see why you want to post here.

also the idea that people don't brag to people above them to try to level the playing field is laughable

also I don't think I'm better than anyone here. I'm a medium 2/5 winner lifetime a pretty sizable winner at 1/2 life time a decent 5/10 and higher winner over a pretty medium sample and a pretty marginal 6 max online winner. I'm probably in the top 60th percentile of live 2/5 full time regs so the people in this thread are probably very close to my skill level.

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Old 08-02-2015, 05:49 PM   #9814
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If you're the very cream of the crop top 1-3 players of a small ish player pool, there is a reverse trend that happens once you adapt to the regs adapting to your game. Sure for a short period of time before this happens there will be a adjustment period where you don't make as much as you did when you first started, i acknowledge that. But once you really pinpoint the way players really perceive you, it doesn't matter much anymore; you can figure out ways to exploit that and thus your winrate goes back ⬆️⬆️
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However, If you're even good enough to make Money in poker (10% of players) of that 10%, 70% don't even qualify as the player I am describing above. I would guess most of the 2p2 community over estimates their skill & winrate capabilities and thus, assumes i am speaking about them in my prior post earlier ^^^
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:49 PM   #9815
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you know whats a true story about this girl? I met her on omegle in 2009 and its just an actual picture of her, then we disconnected. I've never known anyone who can identify her because she isn't a model she is just a randomly super beautiful redhead.

This absolutely made my day. Instant classic.
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:31 PM   #9816
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There are few way of doing things to gain knowledge.

1. Chat with good players.

2. Use other people to bounce ideas.

Nice people don't get good results using the second approach.

And I don't know any good players.
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:10 PM   #9817
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venice had always said this, once regs get to know you, expect WR to drop.
Yah this is probably a hugely underrated factor in your WR. My room is always running 5-10 2/5 tables, so it's not too small - but eventually I'll become a "known commodity" to most of the regs and will have to adjust to their adjustments.
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:11 PM   #9818
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Beware the downswing Johnny. I started off at 2/5 like gangbusters too.
How long did it last? How big of a reality check was it?

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I'll check back in in another 50
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:17 PM   #9819
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People call down new players light, nature of suspicious poker players.

New players are also slightly more aggressive, nature of unsuspecting poker players.

venice had always said this, once regs get to know you, expect WR to drop.
Calling BS on this.

When I first started playing in a small player pool in 2008, my win rate definitely increased over time when regs got to know me because they would give me insane amounts of action. Then when I switched to another somewhat small player pool in 2012, the same thing happened. The regs would get to know me, and my win rate would increase because they would give me a ton of action.

More importantly, home field advantage is a very big deal. New grinders to a player pool will always be at a disadvantage to the existing grinders because the existing grinders have such an intimate knowledge of the player pool already.

It is completely backwards to say that your win rate will be highest when you first enter a new player pool.
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:55 PM   #9820
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That's assuming one's not god's greatest gift to poker, but you are.
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:56 PM   #9821
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My win rate also goes up over the years, but I know that I am exception to the rule, because I am also god's gift to poker.
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:00 PM   #9822
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Not here to brag. Plenty of other people do that. Just saying that you are wrong about winrates going down when existing regs "get to know you."
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:01 PM   #9823
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Not here to brag. Plenty of other people do that. Just saying that you are wrong about winrates going down when existing regs "get to know you."
If you are a losing player or break even player, it does happen.

Do you disagree with that?
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:05 PM   #9824
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If you are a losing player or break even player, it does happen.

Do you disagree with that?
You were posting your nonsense in response to people who were posting their POSITIVE winrates in this thread. I have no idea why you would bring up irrelevant losing players or breakeven players. We are discussing winning LLSNL posters and what might happen to them as the regs in their player pool "got to know them.":
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:07 PM   #9825
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Let me put it in a way that it's harder to argue.

If you are better than the regs, then time would make it favorable for you.

If you are not, then time would favor the other guys.

Agree?
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