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Old 07-24-2015, 01:47 PM   #9701
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Lol i thought you meant on ACR.
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Old 07-24-2015, 02:18 PM   #9702
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I have a funny hand for you guys.

6 handed 1-2nl, it's late around 1.30am most people are semi-drunk. hero covers everyone at the table, biggest fish of the whole city was there tonight, actually didn't give away too much but enough to make some guys really deep.

Drunk casual to my left, very drunk, took a lot of shooters with him and he was also getting beers non-stop the whole night. Very gambly, loose, aggro table.

I open K4o to 10 UTG (lol).
Drunk casual (1k deep) to my left insta 3bets to 20. His range literally ATC at this point.

Everyone folds hero calls.Hero yells no A no Kings!! Flop AdKdKx, everybody burst in laugther.
Hero checks, drunk bets like 30 or 40. Hero calls

Turn 6d completing the fd. Hero checks, drunk insta ships for around 900 more in a 100$ pot...

Hero shows his K, villain throws a card at hero which ends up being the 3d.

Hero tanks and V is just drunk talking lol, he actually showed a spectator his hand earlier too. hero calls. V shows 3d2x lol.

Ps: I know this whole hand is a snap fold 98% of the time, this guy really likes overbet shoving paired board for some reason and he doesn't overbet shove when he has a hand. Kinda funny tho to shove 500bbs with a 3 high fd. Lots of laugh were had after this hand.
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:23 PM   #9703
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nice hand and good game selection
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Old 07-25-2015, 03:48 AM   #9704
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Not sure which player is biggest fish in the city...please elaborate
he had left broke at this time and wasnt in the hand anymore

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For your sake, keep your day job.
Can I buy coaching from you richard?
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nice hand and good game selection
Thanks, it truly is a gem, gotta enjoy it while it lasts.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:49 AM   #9705
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1000 OWL HARES

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Old 07-26-2015, 11:59 AM   #9706
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Very solid. PLO recruitment banner there.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:03 PM   #9707
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$20/hr can't even cover self medicating cost of spending more than 5 hours a week in a casino.
Imagine if you had to work in a mill or a factory. The horror.
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Old 07-26-2015, 02:07 PM   #9708
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I play a very high variance style. There are a few whales in my player pool that are always there, and I put alot of value on building a big stack early in the night so that I can be sitting deep with the whales later in the session (I've had one player consistently snap off my 3b shoves for $800+ effective with 99-QQ or AK). This involves taking highly aggressive lines early on and pushing position and draws heavily vs the non-whales. Somehow all the villains haven't caught on on how to exploit me as I get tons of folds from them.
It sounds like your in a very good game with horrific regs,, would you employ the same style if another good player sat down is this style only sustaianble in this game, and do you play the same vs unknowns
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Old 07-26-2015, 02:12 PM   #9709
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hmm ... really starting to get the 2/5 bug now. players are just as bad as 1/2 players, just in different ways. still so many limp callers and people just limping/open raising horrible ranges.

the lack of short stackers at 2/5 (most people buy in for 1000 at my room, i seem to be the lone 500 stacker) has me thinking this game will be even more lucrative in terms of BB/hr winrate, even accounting for the slightly better players

played a 5.5 hour session tonight. got felted on the FIRST HAND at the table (new table opened) when i stacked off with AK on KT9ss flop 3-way SPR ~5 and lost to a flush

still ended the session +$560

BR now at $15k. may not play 1/2 again unless i go on a bad 2/5 downswing. starting to feel really comfortable playing a tightened up version of my 1/2 game. think i'll keep playing 2/5 tight (range that dominates V's) until i get more experience and can start buying in for 1000 and playing looser in LP

2/5 test run in july

Do you mind answering how you built you roll was it from 1/2
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Old 07-26-2015, 02:36 PM   #9710
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If you had a job that offered you quarterly bonuses would you not include that as your income?
A quartely bonus is predictable not a BBJ,, would you calculate finding $100k on the streets as a part of your yearly income from your job making it seem as if your one of your companies top earners....NO, unless your insecure
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:00 PM   #9711
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Do you mind answering how you built you roll was it from 1/2
So I was playing more recreationally in 2014. I didn't have a proper bankroll or anything, I just set aside $600 and grinded it up to $4000. Thought I was on top of the world "crushing" 1/2. I also had a nasty little habit called "getting shitfaced at the poker table." Well needless to say that roll went bust around August 2014.

I took 4 months off to save up a proper roll ($4000) and read a handful of books during that time. Started playing again in late December (still drinking). After having a breakeven January where I gave back $2000 due to being blackout drunk and getting two 24-hour bans I completely stopped drinking.

And lo and behold, my results since February (~400-450 hours) have been phenomenal. Maybe it's just run-good but I think there is a strong correlation to a) having a proper roll and b) not drinking while playing - that have allowed me to progress as much as I have in 2015.

I take the game very seriously now. I just started playing 2/5 and I *ALMOST ALMOST* took a shot at 10/10 last night after doubling up from $500 to $1200 at 2/5.

Hope this helped
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:14 PM   #9712
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Good call on the cessation of drinking. Nice hit for 700 too. Keep it up.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:23 PM   #9713
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So I was playing more recreationally in 2014. I didn't have a proper bankroll or anything, I just set aside $600 and grinded it up to $4000. Thought I was on top of the world "crushing" 1/2. I also had a nasty little habit called "getting shitfaced at the poker table." Well needless to say that roll went bust around August 2014.

I take the game very seriously now. I just started playing 2/5 and I *ALMOST ALMOST* took a shot at 10/10 last night after doubling up from $500 to $1200 at 2/5.

Hope this helped
Don't think shot taking 10/10 is advisable. Sure 2/5 is only marginally tougher than 1/2 but 5/T-T/T is a completely different animal.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:47 PM   #9714
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^ yeah I agree, for someone that just moved to $2/5 I would put at least 200 hrs in at $2/5 before shot taking $10/10 unless you have reason to believe your $10/10 has a particularly soft line up with some big fish.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:53 PM   #9715
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Imagine if you had to work in a mill or a factory. The horror.
Not quite the same.

You get to put in the work and know that work translate into hard earn money.

Poker doesn't give you that same feeling.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:16 PM   #9716
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Don't think shot taking 10/10 is advisable. Sure 2/5 is only marginally tougher than 1/2 but 5/T-T/T is a completely different animal.
Yah it wasn't gonna be a multiple shot attempt or anything, I was just up $700 very quick at 2/5 so I effectively would be buying in for $1000 at 10/10 risking only $300 which I would have been fine with losing. Not trying to actually play it right now or anything it was just good circumstances with a big whale I recognized about to sit down. Didn't end up playing it though.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:09 PM   #9717
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Don't think shot taking 10/10 is advisable. Sure 2/5 is only marginally tougher than 1/2 but 5/T-T/T is a completely different animal.
This^^

Ive played 4000 career hours or so of $5 blind games and even though I've crushed 5/5 & 2/5 over the last 3 years, "shot taking" a 10/10 after running up a $500 stack to check it all out is not very wise. I've played 300-400 hours of 5/10 lifetime and the games are far different in a vacuum. Much tougher, it's a whole new type of game. "Standard" lines get eaten alive by the good pros.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:39 PM   #9718
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So you're saying I should move up.
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Old 07-26-2015, 08:56 PM   #9719
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Where do you play 5/10? If you are a standard 50$ per hour balla 2p2 2/5 crusher you should be able to at least squeak that out at 5/10. It isn't that much harder but you do need to make adjustments.

Also regarding not drinking at the table, I've had the opposite experience. Since I quit I've hit a brick wall. If you can handle your alcohol though I honestly don't think there is any bigger action builder than drinking.
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:06 PM   #9720
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If you can't drink and play maybe you should drop down and learn. Single most EV thing you can do at the table besides growing boobs
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:21 PM   #9721
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^ this guy knows the truth
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:33 PM   #9722
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Opinions on short stacking 2/5 live ($200-$500) vs full stacking 1/2 ($60-$300)?

And by shortstack I don't mean buy in short and play normal poker. I mean play an extremely tight strategy that has zero play after the flop. No set mining. Just pushing preflop equities and dead money. I've done this online at up to 200nl with pretty good success and live should be even better given that the preflop opening size is larger and the fact that these players call $25 opens with random junk.

I would then decide if the table were good enough to top off my stack and play deep or to rathole and switch tables.

Will 2/5 players adjust to a pro shortstack or will they repeatedly pay you off with TT when the worst hand you ever have is AKs?

How would the hourly compare in these two games?
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:36 PM   #9723
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LOL, pro short stacker.

And please, do not carry your douchbaggery to local casinos...
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:55 PM   #9724
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:57 PM   #9725
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LOL, pro short stacker.

And please, do not carry your douchbaggery to local casinos...
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