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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

05-10-2015 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nozsr
A long time ago, when the Mirage was "the place to play" (since the Bellagio hadn't been built yet and the Stardust poker room had lost whatever glitter it had) I had to be there on business 3-4 days a week, 3-4 weeks a month, for 5 months out of 12.

I met more than one grinder, got to know some of the sub-culture of the day (they knew I was a tourist but not your typical tourist).

The game was 10-20 limit and not today's game.

The guys I talked at length with, were all trying to "go pro"... I say "trying" because it was July, and one guy was even for the calendar year. Another guy was down $5000 for the year. A third was up $1500 for the year, which amounted to $250 a month. These guys wanted to "live the dream" and played 40+ hours a week every week.

(The rake was 10%, $4 max, and most of the pots were mountainous. The guys who couldn't beat the game didn't have "high rake" or "lack of action" as an excuse.)

Guarantee I would not continue if I were down $5,000 for the year to date!

Yes, the winners didn't want to talk, only the wanna-be's would discuss this stuff with me, but for sure, it's not "easy money".

Yes, LLSNL is a different game, it's a different time, and the players are different, but the math is not.
Im sorry but why would you even compare limit holdem to no limit holdem?
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05-10-2015 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nozsr

Yes, LLSNL is a different game, it's a different time, and the players are different, but the math is not.






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Originally Posted by day'n'night
Im sorry but why would you even compare limit holdem to no limit holdem?
Top notch reading comprehension ITT
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05-10-2015 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Feel better now?

It's all going to be ok. I'm sure you're a very very good player
Hu4rollz obv
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05-11-2015 , 08:11 PM
I know its not the most valuable stat to have for live play and a lol-sample size number of hours, but what is a reasonable "standard deviation" relative to "average" for hourly winrate?

Over ~360 hours my std dev is a little over 13x my hourly. Is this way too swingy to consider myself a winning player?
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05-11-2015 , 08:18 PM
70-100bbs per hour is normal std.

Need to know ur winrate to say if ur a winner.
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05-11-2015 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by t_roy
70-100bbs per hour is normal std.

Need to know ur winrate to say if ur a winner.
Neat. A little over 100bb/hr std dev, but I would say I play relatively loose, more so once stacks get a bit deeper so that makes sense. 8.5 bb/hr winrate.

Thanks.
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05-11-2015 , 10:44 PM
Hey guys, due to internet troubles I may be withdrawing $1k of my 2.6k roll to play live 1/2. Do you think 5 buyins will be OK for someone who can beat up to 100NL on bovada? I plan on playing very tight and just value betting unless I am in overwhelmingly good bluff spots.

I'd just take the whole roll out but I will get hit with a 5% re-deposit fee on Bovada, so I'd like to keep a 50NL roll on Bovada and take the rest live.

I would only be playing on weekend nights.
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05-11-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Hey guys, due to internet troubles I may be withdrawing $1k of my 2.6k roll to play live 1/2. Do you think 5 buyins will be OK for someone who can beat up to 100NL on bovada? I plan on playing very tight and just value betting unless I am in overwhelmingly good bluff spots.

I'd just take the whole roll out but I will get hit with a 5% re-deposit fee on Bovada, so I'd like to keep a 50NL roll on Bovada and take the rest live.

I would only be playing on weekend nights.
You should do fine with 5bi. Just play a lower variance style.
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05-11-2015 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mreps
You should do fine with 5bi. Just play a lower variance style.
Would you suggest leaving tables after doubling up or just avoiding reverse implied odd type hands as we get deeper?
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05-11-2015 , 11:48 PM
@BM303 some people are good at sniping but I don't think you should leave a table if it is still good. You should stay as long as the table is good and you are playing well.
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05-12-2015 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by runlikeadonkey
@BM303 some people are good at sniping but I don't think you should leave a table if it is still good. You should stay as long as the table is good and you are playing well.
This is true, but you don't want to be on a table with half your roll too often.
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05-12-2015 , 01:31 AM
The games are always good. If you double up get off the table. If they allow you to change tables and buy in for less than you left with, do that.
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05-12-2015 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bm303
or just avoiding reverse implied odd type hands as we get deeper?
So if you had 50 buyins you'd just burn it in RIO spots?
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05-26-2015 , 03:21 AM
Running so damn hot in may holy sht.

Brag time, up 5.5k at 1/2 in 3 weeks. All my hand holds and all my bluff work, all my bluffcatching have the perfect runout, feels good.
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05-26-2015 , 09:02 AM
YTD graph plz.
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05-26-2015 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kekeeke
Running so damn hot in may holy sht.

Brag time, up 5.5k at 1/2 in 3 weeks. All my hand holds and all my bluff work, all my bluffcatching have the perfect runout, feels good.
i am on a similar, but not quite as hot streak. up $4200 in last 90 hours. a friend of mine wisely advised.. "its hard not to have too much fun during these stretches, but i try not to"
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05-26-2015 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lovethyneighbor
i am on a similar, but not quite as hot streak. up $4200 in last 90 hours. a friend of mine wisely advised.. "its hard not to have too much fun during these stretches, but i try not to"
Haha yeah. Motivation to play is through the roof. I have 140 hours logged thought, so your hourly is a bit better then mine.

No clue how to post graph?
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05-26-2015 , 07:05 PM
Congrats on heater. I had a similar one a month ago. Keep up the good work but don't get cocky!
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05-26-2015 , 08:08 PM
May has been a break even grind. Just getting worked by the deck and folding for hours mostly. Here's to June.
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05-27-2015 , 08:21 AM
Johnny I am right there with you. Let's go June!
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05-27-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Let's go June!
Third!
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05-27-2015 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Would you suggest leaving tables after doubling up or just avoiding reverse implied odd type hands as we get deeper?

I'd suggest more like 2.5 to 3x. Live poker is too slow for a basic martingale system.
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06-01-2015 , 07:03 AM
As far as this break even month thing...

For you guys playing full time, how common is this? Any advice for "coming out of a funk"
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06-01-2015 , 10:59 AM
Glad to have May out of the way. Logged 15 sessions covering 87 hours for a net profit of $330 ($3.80/hr). This includes $330 lost on a tournament satellite to a $1500 entry tournament, a $500 loss when blackout drunk (after being up $750), a $700 loss playing $2/5 (normal game is 1/2), $150 in massages for the month and food/beverages.

I calculate my WR netting out *ANY* expense I pay for at the poker room. So considering how ****ty of a month it was, card dead, not getting paid on big hands, etc. I'm glad to see I came out in the black for the month.

Now let's fk'n go June.

And here's what it looks like in chart form

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06-01-2015 , 12:14 PM
Ugh. May was awful.

Put together a nice little run up 6 BI over 8-9 sessions, then got kicked in the dick by the deck and lost all of them back in about 10 hours. 60 hours played, -$50. Not a huge loss by any means, but a very frustrating way to do it.

Thought I was turning my year around. Nope. Down about -$1200 for 250 hours in 2015.

Will have to go back and sort things, but a good portion of that is from trying to play Omaha in a $1/2 game with a couple of crazy aggro's that made it a $1/2/10/pot game. Otherwise most of my NLHE sessions have been somewhere between completely uneventful bleedfests and "sweet, I got this idiot to put in his stack with middle pair against my KK overpair on the turn ... and he spikes the 5 outer, ****"
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