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Old 01-29-2015, 04:36 PM   #8751
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Little uptick, getting close to 1000 hours at the RR $1/2. $2/5 going pretty well, recent results have been good, starting to nail down the regs' ranges. Current stats and giraffes:








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Old 01-29-2015, 05:39 PM   #8752
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Neverlose, you've posted some hypothetical winrates itt over the past day that are basically impossible.
I would love to see someone attain $50/hr at 2/5 buying in short.
I play in SoCal where the game structure is $200 min/max buy in with $3/5 blinds (Commerce), or $100-300 buy-in with $2/5 blinds (Hustler) so I have been forced to learn short stacking strategy since the lower level games are a joke ($6-7 DROP - not rake) per flopped hand.

Over 300+ hours I have a winrate of $40/hr (smaller sample size I know) but that may be due to the fact that the whole table is shortstacked all the time so it's not really apples to apples.
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:55 PM   #8753
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19 bb/hr over ~900 hours at 1/2 NL? Impressive wj, way too crush.

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Old 01-29-2015, 07:28 PM   #8754
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Neverlose, you've posted some hypothetical winrates itt over the past day that are basically impossible.
I would love to see someone attain $50/hr at 2/5 buying in short.
Not as hard as you think.

Have seen $40/hr in 20 - 60bb game during "daytime" game ONLY, not even in the juicy weekend and night games.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:32 PM   #8755
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I play in SoCal where the game structure is $200 min/max buy in with $3/5 blinds (Commerce), or $100-300 buy-in with $2/5 blinds (Hustler) so I have been forced to learn short stacking strategy since the lower level games are a joke ($6-7 DROP - not rake) per flopped hand.

Over 300+ hours I have a winrate of $40/hr (smaller sample size I know) but that may be due to the fact that the whole table is shortstacked all the time so it's not really apples to apples.
Commerce also has 5/5 $500 buyin fyi
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:58 AM   #8756
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There's just no way you're winning $40/hr at 1/2 over 1k hours, just impossible.
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Old 01-30-2015, 09:52 AM   #8757
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Why not?
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:12 AM   #8758
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We had gone over this many times and pretty much always after wj posts his latest results.

It simply doesn't make whole lot of logical sense for someone to absolutely destroy 1/2 over a large live sample size and remain in that stake.

It makes even less sense when said player lives in Vegas.

But ya...he plays for fun and doesn't want to deal with the pressure of higher stake. Got it.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:26 AM   #8759
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That doesn't address whether those winnings are possible or not.

There is not some hard limit at 10bb/hr.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:33 AM   #8760
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That doesn't address whether those winnings are possible or not.

There is not some hard limit at 10bb/hr.
Depends on whose win rate we're discussing imo.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:05 PM   #8761
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Depends on whose win rate we're discussing imo.

Yours is capped at 1 broken phone a session.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:09 PM   #8762
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I would be happy if I could just win period at 1/3
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:23 PM   #8763
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I would be happy if I could just win period at 1/3
My guess is you would crush 1/3 NL if you dropped your bluffing percentage to 0%, especially with (what I assume) is an awesome spewy image at this point.

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Old 01-30-2015, 01:44 PM   #8764
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There's just no way you're winning $40/hr at 1/2 over 1k hours, just impossible.
Sure it's possible. If you think that's high you should see my friend's 2/5 wintrate

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We had gone over this many times and pretty much always after wj posts his latest results.

It simply doesn't make whole lot of logical sense for someone to absolutely destroy 1/2 over a large live sample size and remain in that stake.

It makes even less sense when said player lives in Vegas.

But ya...he plays for fun and doesn't want to deal with the pressure of higher stake. Got it.
I have a job, poker isn't my life and I don't depend on it....but I did put in 300 hours of 2/5, and will probably be more like 1000 hours of 2/5 this year. It can be tough playing higher stakes when you're shelling out $5-6k/month in expenses and trying to become debt-free at the same time. I spent way too much renovating my house and buying a nice car, finally done paying off the renovations and close to paying off the car. The $2/5 where I normally play (Red Rock) can also be a pretty tough game depending on which regs show up each day, meanwhile the $1/2 is a cakewalk and I can just relax and play on autopilot without thinking too hard. Who wants to sit in a deepstack game with 4 solid pros and some 70-year-old nits that play one hand an hour? There's usually one $2/5 table running, so no game selection there. Often plays closer to a $5/10 game because most of the pros are straddling every button and average stack size is around $1500 at night. Life is expensive, sorry if you don't like my bankroll uber-nittiness.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:49 PM   #8765
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Yeah it is not like you can drive 15 minutes and play at any of 15 other rooms.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:54 PM   #8766
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Yeah it is not like you can drive 15 minutes and play at any of 15 other rooms.
But that's so far! Driving to the strip feels like an eternity. Anyone who lives near RR would agree.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:58 PM   #8767
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WJ, what is the rake and buy in limits for your game? And can you take more than the max buy in like 300bbs or w/e when you transfer tables?
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:25 PM   #8768
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WJ, what is the rake and buy in limits for your game? And can you take more than the max buy in like 300bbs or w/e when you transfer tables?
$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:28 PM   #8769
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Seems legit to me.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:30 PM   #8770
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$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
Pretty awesome rake and BI and table change rules, imo.

Not sure why'd you'd play anywhere else given that it seems you can destroy this game on autopilot (and autopilot is fairly necessary after putting in a full work day beforehand).

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Old 01-30-2015, 02:32 PM   #8771
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But that's so far! Driving to the strip feels like an eternity. Anyone who lives near RR would agree.
When I've visited friends in Vegas or otherwise had a car the consesus has always been that driving in and around the strip is a gigantic PITA. While I'm sure there are back ways into a lot of places, I'd probably take the lazy route and play right near my house too.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:37 PM   #8772
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When I've visited friends in Vegas or otherwise had a car the consesus has always been that driving in and around the strip is a gigantic PITA. While I'm sure there are back ways into a lot of places, I'd probably take the lazy route and play right near my house too.
Yes it is a PITA. I tried to grind the Caesars hours promo for free WSOP seats and it took me 40 minutes to get there every day with traffic, not worth it. By the time I get to the poker room I'm already on life tilt. RR is 8 minutes from my house.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:45 PM   #8773
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I imagine if I lived in Vegas, going to the strip on a regular basis would be very undesirable.

Good job on the winrate wj94, keep crushing.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:58 PM   #8774
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$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
Very nice. I think $40/hr is certainly achievable with that structure.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:18 PM   #8775
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DK ^ reorganize this as a histogram and then people will understand better.
Like this?



So each bar is a 25BB range.
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