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Old 05-07-2014, 04:54 PM   #7151
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:57 PM   #7152
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What is a standard BR for 2-5? 15k?
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:59 PM   #7153
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Should be good with 20bi
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:07 PM   #7154
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Should be good with 20bi
This.

A winning player at any stakes can expect 20 buy ins to be pretty sufficient.

Obv for a losing player, no matter the size of your bank roll you will eventually lose it all.
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:32 PM   #7155
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25k aka 50 buyins
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:46 PM   #7156
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25 is a bit high. Depends on your situation. But if a player starts with 10 buy-ins and loses 3 of them, as long as you have the mental strength to step down, I recommend taking shots. Because you can have a heater and make 5 buy-ins in a week and have flexability to stay at that level and learn more. But if you play for a living I dont recommend that philosophy.

Personally, its hard for me to step down. But I have gotten better over the years.

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Old 05-08-2014, 06:59 PM   #7157
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I am probably going to wait until I reach $20k to move up. Only at $4k now so I've got a ways to go but I'm not really in a rush. 1/2 is pretty fun right now and I'm starting to feel very comfortable with the game.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #7158
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:27 AM   #7159
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:31 AM   #7160
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
When it's your job/source of income you sit there. I don't think you have to play 40+ hours per week. I've been averaging 35ish. It's been a month. It's not that tough.

I probably have averaged another 10/week or more online, though. Which is hella easier.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:37 AM   #7161
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
I've only played 40 hours in a week when i've been on vacation, so lolsamplesize. But I think it's like any other job. You structure your day with poker as a part of it. Not having another "real" job to worry about/consume your energy makes it much easier.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:05 AM   #7162
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
Lol ive played 36 hrs straight. Love the game. Could play 10 hrs/day easy if i had the time
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:09 AM   #7163
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Which app is the best for tracking your live poker for iOS at the moment?
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Old 05-14-2014, 10:09 AM   #7164
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
It's similar to someone who regularly works out, you get used to it.
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Old 05-14-2014, 10:20 AM   #7165
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?
Great question. It's person dependent, but I'd probably need an hourly of $80 to $100 to play full time so I could only play 4 hours a day because I don't think I could play 8 hours a day either and I think if I tried, I would get burnt out and eventually hate poker. Poker is fun when I can play it when I want to, but if I had to play it and especially if I had to play it 8 hours a day. I don't know how other people play, but when I play, my mind is constantly thinking and working.
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Old 05-14-2014, 11:23 AM   #7166
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How do you guys pull in 8hrs + per day?

I sit at the table for 4, maybe 6-8 hrs max and i'm tired or don't wanna play anymore, no matter if its a win or lose. If I lose, of course I take a break, and if I win, I don't wanna risk todays winnings at another casino or anything.

How is it you guys pull in 40 hrs + a week =/ You guys play ultra-nitty?
Do you have a job?

Do you actually enjoy playing, or do you play just to make money?

Do you feel pressure to make a certain amount of money each week?

Often times if there are external pressure involved with playing poker (like having to support a family, pay bills, pay rent, meet staking weekly playing requirements, whatever) it makes it harder to play because even when you don't 'want' to play, you feel compelled to play.

The long story short is that if you don't have to play 8 hours a day, don't.
There's nothing that say that you need to be there that long. If you want to stick around because the games are good, then it's one thing. And you should want to be there. So playing longer sessions should be easy.
But it really comes down to, why do you feel so compelled to play an 8 hour session? What's wrong with a 6 hour session? Or a 4 hour session?

Also, get up and take breaks. After an hour, go take a 10 minute walk. It's good for your brain and it's good for your body.
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:04 PM   #7167
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Hey guys, I just started playing full time live poker, and I'm wondering what's a good sample size hours wise I need to have to see where's my hourly rate? Also what's standart\high hourly rate for 1\3 and 2\5 games? I have a 300 hour sample and somewhat high hourly rate, and just curious what's good sample size...
Thank you!
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:02 PM   #7168
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Hey guys, I just started playing full time live poker, and I'm wondering what's a good sample size hours wise I need to have to see where's my hourly rate? Also what's standart\high hourly rate for 1\3 and 2\5 games? I have a 300 hour sample and somewhat high hourly rate, and just curious what's good sample size...
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1000 is ok 2000 is better
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:42 AM   #7169
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Lol ive played 36 hrs straight. Love the game. Could play 10 hrs/day easy if i had the time
i use to be like that also. in my 20's i'd regularly play 24 hour sessions and once played 50 hours straight. closest game was 300 mile round trip so i wasn't leaving until i won $400, went bust or falling asleep at the table.

i can't pull those long sessions anymore. lately i average 4hr session but going to start putting in longer hours soon.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:51 AM   #7170
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For most people, burn out is a legitimate, real threat to be wary of ... so they don't become weary of poker

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Old 05-15-2014, 04:05 PM   #7171
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from what I've heard, for 1\2;1\3 games 25-30\hr that's good rate, and for 2\5 45-50 is very decent, is that right?
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Old 05-15-2014, 05:06 PM   #7172
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from what I've heard, for 1\2;1\3 games 25-30\hr that's good rate, and for 2\5 45-50 is very decent, is that right?
those are excellent win rates, not just good.

my goal for $1/$3 is $25/hr

had a reg pro (maybe still a wannabe) ask me last night how many people in our casino were playing for a living. he said 100. i said i thought that was too high.

the more i thought about it, it was WAY too high. i mean, if there are 25 tables going and 9 players per table, that's 225 players IN THE ROOM at a time. So maybe the player pool is 600? 1/6 making enough to pay bills? I don't think so.

Our room ranks players by hours ... I was barely in the top 20 since May 1 with about 70. So if only 20 players are playing about 40 hours/week, and at least five of those 20 are retirees, that really lowers the number of people earning a living at the game.
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Old 05-15-2014, 05:08 PM   #7173
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those are excellent win rates, not just good.

my goal for $1/$3 is $25/hr

had a reg pro (maybe still a wannabe) ask me last night how many people in our casino were playing for a living. he said 100. i said i thought that was too high.

the more i thought about it, it was WAY too high. i mean, if there are 25 tables going and 9 players per table, that's 225 players IN THE ROOM at a time. So maybe the player pool is 600? 1/6 making enough to pay bills? I don't think so.

Our room ranks players by hours ... I was barely in the top 20 since May 1 with about 70. So if only 20 players are playing about 40 hours/week, and at least five of those 20 are retirees, that really lowers the number of people earning a living at the game.
From what I've heard (Bart Hanson talks about this in one of his episodes) the player pool is roughly 8-10x the average volume of players on a Friday night.

And maybe 10% of those are profitable players.
And maybe 30% of those play for a living. But that seems too high.

Also, players like me, I have a real job. But I play 30 hours a week. Do I play for a living? Or am I rec player for the basis of this question.
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Old 05-15-2014, 05:12 PM   #7174
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those are excellent win rates, not just good.

my goal for $1/$3 is $25/hr

had a reg pro (maybe still a wannabe) ask me last night how many people in our casino were playing for a living. he said 100. i said i thought that was too high.

the more i thought about it, it was WAY too high. i mean, if there are 25 tables going and 9 players per table, that's 225 players IN THE ROOM at a time. So maybe the player pool is 600? 1/6 making enough to pay bills? I don't think so.

Our room ranks players by hours ... I was barely in the top 20 since May 1 with about 70. So if only 20 players are playing about 40 hours/week, and at least five of those 20 are retirees, that really lowers the number of people earning a living at the game.
So your room ranks hours players play and everyone can see that? That seems weird / not good?

Ginsanelyjealousthatyourroomhas25tablesgoing;myroo mhas5tablestotal,I'mluckyif2aregoingG
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Old 05-15-2014, 05:40 PM   #7175
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So your room ranks hours players play and everyone can see that? That seems weird / not good?

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A bunch of rooms that I'm aware of rank people based on hours.
But only because they have payouts for most hours played per month and per week and the such.

The public lists are sort of a by product of that payout.
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