Congrats on your success. I highly doubt you can do higher. Need maybe 3-4x that sample size. Where are your tables? In Cherokee they bumped the max to 500.

1/2 and 1/3. no 2/5

Pretty late on this convo but wanted to chime in;

I've played 1/2 at Bellagio and the dealer told me that one of the guys at our table was a 5/T reg (once he left obviously)

I just started out live. Profiting $1600 over 10 sessions. My application tells me $47 an hr. Mainly my last session I profited $1300 in 5 hrs. Do u live guys play online at all? Cuz I get sweeped online, should I continue on this direction or focus on live?

Focus on a job.

Unless you don't like the live environment, live is much better for profit.

Learn fundamentals online, transition to live, ?????, profit

I earned in 1 night the same amount as my 1 month paycheque, then again its only partime, also, if I had a real job that I could focus on and eventually get to pay me 100k a year, then yea no shat I focus on that. But I don't so I play poker to make up for it.

"Learn fundadmentally & go live"

That's exactly what I did already, just not that far in to online poker where I'm crushing literally every table.

But how much did you lose?

No really, how much did you lose the session before?
It's all great to say that we won a bunch of money in one session, but no matter how good or bad you are, your best session will never be achievable every time. You will have natural downswings where stuff like AA loses to KK or QQ loses to AK or whatever else. And you will have bad days, so until you can start to generalize the 'long term' then you have no idea what your true winning or losing potential is.

Also, losing 1 months worth of pay checks is a lot worse than winning one months worth of pay checks is good.

The wins never feel as good as the losses hurt for sure.

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And this is variance being nice

Sometimes you have the sort of variance where villains always have a hand with which to call your bluffs and never have a hand with which to call your value bets and it feels like you're doing everything wrong but you have no idea.

Before you think about getting too serious about poker, take that high you are feeling right now and ask yourself how long you would be able to tolerate the opposite.

this a thousand times. When you expect to win, winning does nothing for you and losing makes you feel miserable. Even being a winning player can be painful.

Absolutely.


Variance and downswings can be unreal over unreal samples of playing time.

AA losing to KK and that kind of stuff can really hurt of course, but guys who are on winners tilt/experienced one or two top winning sessions should just wait until your sets get constantly sucked out on by flushdraws- experiencing sets over sets for 800 BB pot, flopped flush over flush and that kind of horrible beats kind of stuff.

Because you can never win enough, while losing will set you even further back from going above zero

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Lost $1000 yesterday, feels like a million. Win $1000 and who cares, it's just expected...

I understand theres variance and bigger sets/flushes can take out yours, but I believe If we make the right +ev decisions. In the long run, we will Come out on top. Of course you can't win every session due to coolers and badbeats, but until u can X-ray the villains cards, this is tje best we can do right.

Kenshi just keep putting in more hours. If you can sustain a positive winrate over 1000 hours then you are likely a winning player. If you have a 20 + buyin downswing or worse than you probably arent there yet

Your current sample size is way way way to small to say anything regarding your true winrate.
Even Though I have logged 1000+ hours my winrate still fluctuates by +1/-1 bb/hr every session i play.

Limon suggested playing both online and live if you want to make it as a pro, especially if you dont play in big poker cities like vegas, LA, etc.. Where are you located?

I'm located in Vancouver BC. I think it's OK here. Decent amount of noobs. Or maybe I'm just noob myself. I never had to table change once in my life yet, pots are rarely chopped. There's always people putting money in pot by limping wit medicore hands. I'm wondering If I should tournament it up just for fun even though I have like No experience, but dat bet to payout ratio...

The 2 sessions I lost I was tilted like mad. I raised 20 wit pocket 9s. 2 callers. I all in $120 on JJ10 board. Turns out one has AJ and one has 910 diamonds and hits the flush.

Then previously before I was tilted cuz I couldn't let KK go on a A85 board. I called down light I guess. Villain shows A7 2 pair at the end and stacked me $30+ every street.

I agree with 1000 hrs needed for sample size. I don't ever go though If I feel tilted in anyway. Emotions can really get you on the tables when ur down. But **** tbh, I want to hit BBJ the most payout is 150k+ total.

This should only happen if you win or lose more than 1000 bb in a session. DUCY?

this isn't necessarily true. for instance if our hourly rate is $ divided by hour than a session with a net gain/loss of 0 would have a negative affect on our winrate.

What's more likely is that he was just trying to convey the point that your running hourly total will change every day even when you have 1000 hours in.

1000 hours and $30,000 won = $30/hr
10 hour bad session and -$1200 = 1010 hours and $28,800 won = $28.51/hr

Your hourly changed by almost 10% just from 1 session.

How deep are the other plays usually playing?

Deep? The buy in is $300 and ppl are usually under that , unless they're winning.. lol .. if you mean cash reloads... a donk in here and there so far. Picked up $400 again today, had some feminine luck help in roulette though , but almost got in **** cuz it turned out to be friends friends GF LOL. Will continue sessioning soon.

No offense kenshi, but from reading this post it seems you need to work hard on your game, fundamentals and mentality, if you want to beat it for a decent sustainable rate.

Yep just had a losing session of $400

Called off a all in flush on wit top pair of 10s with 10 7, and villain shows Q6 hearts.

Then lost KK to AA on 10 8 6 board for remaining $250 stack.

I realized after how bad I played and so many things I could have done better, just not enough experience ... yet.