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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

09-12-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienBoy
That's a "better than good" win rate, but the sample size is too small for statistical relevance. Look at your win rate t 1000 + hours.
I have breakfasts with a small group of winning players who contend that I play well but also seem to be more fortunate than the rest of them. And they are somewhat serious about this.

I say without a doubt that the presence of some absolutely awful players makes up at least $10/hour of my winrate this year. Then add at least $10/hour short term error and I could truly be a $7/hour winner for all I know. Having intelligent advice on this site plus the experience I have gained convinces me I would never want to play for a living. It would be a living hell for me.
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09-12-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Not wanting to "drop down in stakes" is a huge leak imo.

It demonstrates ego which is probably the biggest killer of most grinders that actually had a chance.

I still sit in a 1/2 game if it looks good enough.
Could not agree more with all of this. I have a buddy who won big when he jumped to 5/T; is now in an epic swong which leads me to believe he really was just on a mega heater. Told him to move down to 2/5; grind it out; get head straight,; etc. and he responds with a straight face "but I'm a 5/T player" That kind of thinking is ******ed IMO.
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09-12-2013 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex
Played my first 100 hours at 2-3-5 since moving up at the start of August.
Initial impression: The play is similar to 1/2/3 except there are more aggro/bluffy players. The regs are about as bad but make less very bad preflop mistakes and are a bit bluffier. The number of decent to good or confirmed good players is about twice as high, which means that there's still not very many of them.
Squeezing works wonders.

Anyway, results have been pretty good.
Quick question: What app is this? I like it.
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09-12-2013 , 10:08 PM
Poker Journal.
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09-12-2013 , 11:13 PM
out of curiousity.

for 200 hours winning 5k at 1/2 is that big amount? or is that nothing out of ordinary?
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09-12-2013 , 11:18 PM
its a big amount but just going off what ive read on 2p2, its attainable at the right tables
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09-12-2013 , 11:20 PM
Losing ten 100bb buyins isn't that out of the ordinary.
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09-12-2013 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by metski
out of curiousity.

for 200 hours winning 5k at 1/2 is that big amount? or is that nothing out of ordinary?
That is a high winrate for 1/2
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09-12-2013 , 11:38 PM
i got 5.3k in 200hours wondering how much of it is variance or how sustainable it is. obv hard to say but if its an insane number obv variance.
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09-12-2013 , 11:44 PM
10bb/hr is generally accepted as about as high of a winrate that is sustainable. Then again it depends on how fast the losers are losing and how much money they have to lose. NJ keep it up.
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09-13-2013 , 12:02 AM
Just crossed 200 hours today. This is about 70% 1/3NL 20% 2/5NL and 10% 1/2NL


EDIT: Added graph to show the swings.
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09-13-2013 , 02:07 AM
snap that program looks good
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09-13-2013 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Reel Ya In
Just crossed 200 hours today. This is about 70% 1/3NL 20% 2/5NL and 10% 1/2NL


EDIT: Added graph to show the swings.
What app is that? Haven't seen that one before
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09-13-2013 , 12:34 PM
LOL, a prettier graphic is all it takes to garner attention.
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09-13-2013 , 12:34 PM
The app is called RunGood. It's great except that it's missing std deviation statistics.
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09-13-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Aleksei
Really? That's like 50bb/100h or something. I know live winrates are effing massive, but is a WR that high sustainable?
before I beat 2/5 for 50+ an hr, and before I beat 5/10 for 75+ and hr, I beat 1/3 for $30 hr.

That was in dec/January. I am close to positive I can do $50 hr in california 1/3. I have seen one or two people post $50 hr winrates.
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Originally Posted by diarrhea
$30-$65 at 1/3......You've got to be kidding me with this range of numbers
$30hr is easy for me and is the standard.
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Why? Seems reasonable to me.
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Originally Posted by ATsai
I think $30+/hour is reasonable, especially if the 1/3 game plays deep.

as far as $65/hour goes, I think anyone good enough to crush deep 1/3 for $65/hour would just move up to 2/5.
Yea I would but when was the last time you played 1/3? Its so mindless and stress free and requires like no BR. Tbh Im just gonna focus on grinding 1/3 until I have about 25k for 5/T
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Originally Posted by crackleback
Yeah, I was just giving a range of what's possible. There's quite a few 1-2NL guys making $20+/hr and 2-5 guys at $50+/hr. 1-3NL especially deep(200+ BB buyin) should be able to almost double 1-2 rate(keeping in mind you have to be good too- you don't just sit down and get handed $40/hr).

I also doubt there's any superstars staying at 1-3 to make $65/hr unless they just piss away their bankroll on ballin', bitches, pits, etc. Most guys that good should really be at 5-10 or 2-5 at the very least.
Blew it, for sure

$50hr at 2/5 is my standard, $75 should't be too hard

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
LOL, a prettier graphic is all it takes to garner attention.
all about ze visuals
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09-13-2013 , 12:58 PM





I'm missing about two weeks of 1/3 and various other low stakes games. Some of my data was corrupted I guess. Dates should start at 19 dec. I think I am short about 10k, but most of it is from 1/3 and maybe 1k from 5/T
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09-13-2013 , 01:01 PM
Here's a burning question, how much of that is take home?
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09-13-2013 , 01:13 PM
Every poker app on android looks like it.was created right when android was brand new.

I've been waiting for an android dev to actually make a quality tracking app that.is better then using Google drive which is free
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09-16-2013 , 02:28 PM
Had no idea where to post this so sorry if this is the wrong place. Been playing somewhat seriously for a few years, more seriously in the past 2 and when I sit down at 1-2 tables I finally almost always feel that I am the best player. Switching between 1-2 and 2-5 right now.

I only a few months ago bought the PokerJournal app and have been tracking my sessions (big mistakes to not do this a few years ago) so I only have a limited journal of my win rate. How many hours is a big enough sample size to know you're beating 1-2? My ROI is $1705 over 70 hours for a $24.42/hour winrate, but I'm curious if that is a big enough sample size to know I am beating it?

Any suggestions, etc, thanks
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09-16-2013 , 02:31 PM
Use the search function and do your own work.
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09-16-2013 , 02:33 PM
1000+ hours for a decent idea of win rate.
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09-16-2013 , 02:41 PM
Okay thank you
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09-16-2013 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Use the search function and do your own work.
Wow come on guy with 4000 posts. Why waste your breath with this when you could have simply helped the fellow out with a reply? To increase your post count? It's cooler to know the knowledge and share it on a forum when someone asks than to scream at them to search. Better than boringly posting forum rules with nothing to do with the question.



EDIT: And the man even apologized first thing lmao.

You seem to be doing good. Keep it up and move up very cautiously (not necessarily now) - keep keeping track of your sessions.
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09-16-2013 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapp1e
Wow come on guy with 4000 posts. Why waste your breath with this when you could have simply helped the fellow out with a reply? To increase your post count? It's cooler to know the knowledge and share it on a forum when someone asks than to scream at them to search. Better than boringly posting forum rules with nothing to do with the question.



EDIT: And the man even apologized first thing lmao.

You seem to be doing good. Keep it up and move up very cautiously (not necessarily now) - keep keeping track of your sessions.
because then the same questions will be asked over and over cluttering the forum
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