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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

5 6.41%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

6 7.69%

5-7.5

8 10.26%

7.5-10

15 19.23%

10+

26 33.33%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

18 23.08%

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05-24-2013 , 10:04 AM

#5026

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,420

what is the rake

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05-24-2013 , 10:57 AM

#5027

wheeldog00

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 441

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Originally Posted by PuraVida96

I keep all my records by hand so I don't have a fancy PJ chart or sweet graph like Sol (nice job man!) but here are my 2/5 numbers since moving up in September. I tally up my session and calculate this stuff every two months or so and I'm very happy with my 2013 results so far although I should be putting in more hours.

Overall, 11.5bb/hr over 518 hrs.
In 2013 15.9bb/hr over 286 hrs.

This is in a 200-500 game with a $6 rake +$1 BBJ.

Unfortunately the 5/10 game died as I was taking shots so haven't been able to get in many hours in that game. Looking forward to deeper 2/5 and 5/10 games in Vegas this summer.

that is awesome man!! im making 70/hr at 2/5, and im at about 700 hours now so im starting to think it might be sustainable. a few months and I should know for sure, but the play at my room is so bad I think that could be close to actual winrate. anything over 50 id be thrilled though

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05-24-2013 , 11:38 AM

#5028

Hustle247

banned

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 745

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Originally Posted by wheeldog00

What room do you play in? Are you playing tighter/looser? Are you playing aggressive/passive? That is impressive. Keep up the good work.

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05-24-2013 , 12:12 PM

#5029

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by 11t

what is the rake

Rake is 10% cap to 10€

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05-24-2013 , 12:15 PM

#5030

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by Twentythrees

Rake is 10% cap to 10€

Games are Deep, Most Players Seat with 700-1500€

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05-24-2013 , 12:31 PM

#5031

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

That rake is sh*t...you're paying max rake for every 20bb pot @ 5/5. Which is every hand at a deep table. With up to 90 going south every orbit (excluding tip), you need a big edge, imo.

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05-24-2013 , 01:27 PM

#5032

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by kb coolman

That rake is sh*t...you're paying max rake for every 20bb pot @ 5/5. Which is every hand at a deep table. With up to 90 going south every orbit (excluding tip), you need a big edge, imo.

Sick. I Take only 20 min to Get to the casino!
There is another Big card room that have rake 5%, but i have to Drive 80 km with the Car! Also 160 km/Day
Do you think i can earn more Money there?

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05-24-2013 , 02:10 PM

#5033

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

Man, that sucks.

It all depends on what your think your edge is. Do you have any amount of time playing either room? If the closer room is soft enough that you're earning well even with the sky rake, a lower WR is justified by saving the commute $$ and time.

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05-24-2013 , 02:40 PM

#5034

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by kb coolman

I dont have any samplesize at the 5/5 Because i Play 2/4 at the closer room And im Winning 22€/h over 570 h. (Games are relative soft and deep) The Problem is that at the 5/5 Seat only Regs (anytime i Get to the casino there are always the Same People there). I have Looked for the rake at the bigger Card room, its Not 5%, but:

Pot <75 = 0
pot > 75 < 250 = 5
Pot > 250 < 500 = 10

From 250 you Pay 5€ more rake every 250 € in pot
Cap 30€

Not that Bad, And i think i Get there more Action Because there are always 2-3 Games going

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05-24-2013 , 03:01 PM

#5035

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

For pots that are < 75 there isn't rake

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05-24-2013 , 04:56 PM

#5036

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

Man, if you're winning 22bb/h over that sample, you're crushing. I wouldn't change up anything. That room must be crazy soft.

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05-24-2013 , 09:02 PM

#5037

serio562

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,543

There is a fairly new 3/5 NLH game with a buy in of $200-500 at a local casino. Instead of playing the 2/3 NLH with a buy in of $300 I will be playing the 3/5 with buying in at ~$250.

Thoughts?

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05-24-2013 , 09:11 PM

#5038

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Should be a much more profitable game.

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05-24-2013 , 09:15 PM

#5039

serio562

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,543

^Rake is the same, perks are the same, and players are slightly better if any. Obviously I will be playing a bit different but really looking forward to this game.

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05-24-2013 , 09:19 PM

#5040

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

I play both 2/5 100 - 300 BI and 3/5 200 - 500 BI game, and the latter plays much bigger and more profitable.

However, a lot of players that play the 2/5 tells me that 3/5 game is tougher, and yet I feel it's the other way around. The structure of 2/5 BI just makes the game insanely high variance - something a lot of average players don't understand.

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05-25-2013 , 12:27 PM

#5041

Twentythrees

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by kb coolman

Man, if you're winning 22bb/h over that sample, you're crushing. I wouldn't change up anything. That room must be crazy soft.

Im Winning 22 EURO/ Hour (5,5bb/h) not 22bb lol

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05-25-2013 , 01:33 PM

#5042

PuraVida96

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,684

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Originally Posted by wheeldog00

I think it is certainly sustainable, especially in a 1k max game, however you have to know your player pool well. You don't have to play LAG, but you have to constantly be looking for spots to pick up dead money. But this shouldn't be confused with trying to make people fold big hands because 2/5 players aren't in the business of making hero folds. Hell even I consider myself a bit of a station lol.

In a 500 max game I don't know if it's sustainable. Maybe for the best couple of players in the game but usually somebody with the skill set to crush 2/5 like that will move up before they get to a significant sample size.

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05-25-2013 , 02:09 PM

#5043

wheeldog00

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 441

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Originally Posted by PuraVida96

its a 500 max buy in. I play 5/10 when it runs, and I feel I could play much higher. im considered one of the best 2/5 players in the room, and over the last 4 months no one has results close to mine. I do not make many squeeze plays or crazy bluffs. no one folds at my room, so value betting like crazy and not being afraid to overbet huge against certain opponents is where all the profit comes from. like I said, id be thrilled with 50 an hour or higher, but with the bad play I feel 70ish is possible. ill know in a few months

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05-25-2013 , 04:18 PM

#5044

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

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Originally Posted by Twentythrees

Im Winning 22 EURO/ Hour (5,5bb/h) not 22bb lol

Ah ok then. Which game would you consider your main stake? That WR is pretty decent for 1/2, but pretty thin for 5/5.

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05-25-2013 , 07:30 PM

#5045

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,065

My week at 1/2 (300 max) and 2/5 (500 max). Think it's sustainable?

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05-25-2013 , 10:00 PM

#5046

flybine_03

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,414

Lol hopefully my week in vegas will look something like that!

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05-25-2013 , 10:16 PM

#5047

UCDLaCrosse

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,903

I know this sounds ridiculous, but how common are 2k downswings at 1/3?

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05-25-2013 , 10:46 PM

#5048

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

6-7BI? Super standard, imo. Mpethy said earlier that he's had a couple of -10BI swings @ 1/2, and he has a HUGE edge at those games.

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05-25-2013 , 11:28 PM

#5049

wj94

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,951

I've had a couple 10 BI downswings at 1/2. Not unusual.

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05-25-2013 , 11:54 PM

#5050

kb coolman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,452

Agreed. I've had a couple of 7-8BI downswings, and they both felt pretty standard.

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