Don't worry, I'd hate Ohio too.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320760130

Sorry, had to bring it up!

I'm still laughing that OSU has a class teaching people how to use excel. At michigan they just assume you aren't ******ed and make you use a freaking spreadsheet.

Without looking it up - will bet $10 that Michigan has a class that teaches excel.... bet on?

(all the time I get confused that this is the chat thread and post in here!... in before "you must be from Ohio State")

a minraise OTF is like always a BS hand

I'm sure it does. Not one focused on engineers or accountants though

Everyone knows how to use excel, but few people really know how to use it well, in my findings. I feel like every month I show someone at work something in excel and their head explodes. Whoa, slow down professor, what did F4 just do?

I think every single college should have a mandatory excel class or two. It's probably one of the best tools for getting a good job out of school ime. Well, I should add, being able to solve problems in excel is what's really important.

The basic stuff was like week 1 and 2. The stuff past week one and two I'm sure one will never have to use. And Microsoft Access (whatever the orange one is called)....sigh.

Is there anything that you can't google and learn for an average person?

If your job prospect hinges on your ability to use Excel, there's something majorly wrong.

Plus in this instance, we're talking about a few very simple formulas.

Looks like our game plays similar (with regards to open raise sizes, as I never open for less than $15 in my 1/3 game and after limpers(s) it's easily $20+, although my raise size is typically larger than most at my table cuz I don't like going eleventeen ways to a flop with a TP hand), and yet your winrate is like 2x mine; nice.

FWIW, unlike others, I play the hand the exact same way as you. We're only likely to get 3 streets of value from a few Qx hands that we're ahead of (also having to hope that stronger hands like KQ, QJs, etc. limped preflop). Otherwise, the check back on the turn gets us river value from weak second pair type hands (of which there are a million more combos than Qx hands), plus enables bluffy players to float the flop to bluff the river, plus saves us money in the times we are crushed. Plus the board ain't even that drawy (and note one of the few draws did actually come in on the turn). Nice hand, imo.

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I bet they paid the students coming in who were really good at excel on top of excel scholarships. Did your prof have a sweater vest?

Many business schools make you take a tech class that includes an Excel overview.

wtf does F4 do?

fwiw in freshman level courses an excel intro or like "beginners guide" should be in the syllabus for people to catch up on. In my Intro to Engineering class I believe we went over Excel and other computer programming languages.

Basically a class just focused on excel is dumb, it should include computer programming and that should happen in HIGH SCHOOL, not in college

LOL@ all the excel talk

ty and yes, when I read your 1k post, I noticed about a million similarities between your game and mine.

11t you are so correct. You learn, excel, word and powerpoint in hs. Should be common knowledge for all college students to know excel.

If you use a mouse when you work in excel then you need to take a class because you suck at excel.

If you have a slide rule, you don't need it.

Two hands today I ran it twice: AQ vs JT all in preflop, and AK vs 89 all in on 973K two-spade board.

Both "run it twice"s were determined before the hands were exposed, and both times, the second run saved my opponent.

truth

true, go over all this in hs.

got a few weeks left before getting my under grad...you barley learn **** between the ages of 18-22

edit: at least in college

lol then you didn't do it right.

pretty easy to teach yourself excel with an online tutorial if you dont know how.

Well, I came here looking for win rates but wasted a bunch of time reading about excel...


So, what's the current consensus on a 2/5 win rate? I play in a 200-500 BI game with 10% up to $6 + $1 rake. Currently at $40 per hour but only 120ish hours. I'm almost always the best player at the table without a doubt. Is this kind of win rate sustainable? Also, can someone give me some examples of a normal std deviation for your win rate in bb/hr? I obviously don't have a large enough sample to use my numbers. Thanks.

This is not enough hours to have any idea- I put up similar #s buying in for 500 in a 200-1000 game over my first 120 hours and am now in midst of 6k downswing- I game select, study, etc and generally feel I am 1 of best 2 or 3 players, enjoy your run good

You need 1k hours to have any idea

t_roy: 120 hours is about 3600 hands. Barely a blip on the radar. Yes, I think that is sustainable assuming you are consistently the best player at the table.