I'm not rolled for 2/5. I'm playing mainly 1/3 ATM and I'm not rolled for 1/2.

I have explained all this a bunch of times before. Right before BF, I bought a house in Vegas and paid a big tax bill. On BF, the government seized about $40k from me. In not much more than a week, I went from having about $100k in cash lying around to the money I had in my pocket on black Friday--about $1k. That $1k became my BR, and I have been scraping by on it ever since.

Hey Mpethy, you wanna combine rolls and go 50/50 with me?

why the govt seize that money from you? taxes?

You also need to take into account the future value of the 200k each year compounded. Makes it much higher than 4% growth.

No, online poker.

Hey fellas. What do you think min BR would be for 2/5 if I have a completely segregated BR from life with no pressure whatsoever to extract from it? I think I'm getting close now, but just wanna check.

it is a function of how skilled you are. If you have to ask I would guess you are not a crusher so your requirement will be a higher number...no offense sir. Since BF I have not had a downswing greater than 5.5k in over 3k hours of play at 2/5

I have almost no 2/5 experience. I crush 1/2 for over $20/hr. Some say it's about the same, but I'm reaching BR levels now that I've never had to think about before so just making sure I'm not jumping prematurely.

that is quite strong...I am sure you will have almost no problem with 2/5. What is your roll at currently?

I'm currently sitting on ~$8k. I had set 10K as my official make the jump mark, but I'm thinking I might be able to do a little shot taking if the opportunity presents itself.

oh ya!! dude 8k is ample to take shots with...your w/r is so strong at 1/2 that even if you drop 3k shot taking you will be WAY overrolled if you have to step it down. Start playing 2/5 on the weekends.

GL but you most likely will not need too much!

Sit at 2/5 on a weekend, buy in for the minimum and nit it up to the max. Just for a little bit. If your expectation is -2bb/hr that's great, anything above that is just gravy. Then watch every second of every hand until you're confident that you can profit.

Also try to glance at the 2/5 game while you're there playing 1/2. Try to spot the regs and which ones are good and which ones are bad.

Why dive headfirst into higher stakes when intelligence is so cheap?

well i have a ridiculously soft 1/2 game 10 minutes from my house and the 2/5 is about 40 min away. I'll probably start hitting the 2.5 on the weekends as you say. I fear my win rate may be bloated due to the really bad competition, but I suppose that's true of all 1/2. I'm never scared money, but i am a bank roll nit.

With that WR and that roll, you should be shotting 2/5 no question. If you are a rec player, you should just go ahead and move up.

$8k should be enough to take a few weekend shots at $2/5. Even if you drop a BI there you should be able to grind it back during the week at $1/2.

Some of the regs that play $2/5 downtown are lol-bad. So based on your posts I don't think you'd have any trouble winning in the game once you figure out who's who. There's also a $5-5 game at the Heidelberg that runs on Sundays, I'm not sure how much deeper than a standard $2/5 it plays, but I've heard that it's a good game. (And it should be much closer.)

yea, +1.

the 20 buy-in rule is pretty arbitrary if you're not dependent on the money (ie. poker doesn't pay the rent).

You can move up before the 20 buy in rule IF AND ONLY IF you are willing to move down if you lose in the beginning.

I might check that out. Is it the same crap game as their regular 1/2 though? I've never played cash at the Berg, but I've seen it and heard about it and all opinions say it's a grind. Heading downtown has its own appeal as well.

Ike- I love my current 1/2 game so moving down would be no problem. I'll probably still grind the 1/2 part time d/t time and distance

I've heard that it's juicy, but I haven't been to the room in a long time, because of how bad the $1/2 game was. It's probably at least worth checking out. There are probably a fe guys in the Detoit thread that know more about it (as well as the other $2/5 games around).

I did my best to keep track of hands per hour in my session yesterday. I managed to do this (hopefully fairly accurately although I wouldn't be surprised if I missed a hand or two) for the first 6 hours of my session, where I then lost interest in keeping up. I also found it a pain to do (constantly remembering to keep track via a chip stacking method which screwed with my chip stack and made it more difficult to count so I knew whether I could top off legally, distracted me, etc.).

38 + 28 + 32 + 32 + 33 + 33 = 32.7 / hour

Table was nitty when it first started but then loosened up to a more normal (although not fantastic) table. 10 handed the majority of hands.

So, yeah, lol sample size, but I have to admit I was really surprised we were getting in that many hands. My guess would have been 25 hands per hour but that guess looks to be out to lunch.

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Spike... 10 k is the benchmark for moving up... I started taking shots at 6k and honestly once you see how NOT hard 2/5 generally is you will never want to go back...

In general i find the players are just good enough to range players and they can fold a little easier when u make them think they are beat..But not good enough to really play back, bluff raise etc...in other words you can manipulate them via betsizing....

Where at 1/2 they simply call too much and chase too much..

2/5 def a better game imo and still soft.. Do it.

Also when i started i would buy in for 350-400 and go from there... Thts basically only a little more than a max buyin at 1/2 so the risk is not tht bad all things considered.

Advice itt is this: move up to 2/5 where they respect your raises

In all seriousness taking a shot at 2/5 is good but play it when it looks good and don't play it when it looks bad.

11 T made me lol...

I wish it was that easy!

Completely agree with this, many people say they are when they aren't and before they know it they are busto.

What is the best game for bankroll management with a 3k roll with only these options?

1-2 NL 300 max
1-3 NL 300 max
1-3 NL 500 max
2-5 NL 500 max

Most people in this forum say if you feel you are one of the best players at the table (which I feel I am, when table shopping haha), then always buy in for max. I will be heading to Vegas soon and these are the options it looks like are available. Thanks for input.