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Old 01-25-2013, 08:36 PM   #3751
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Everyone comes in here and spews off the top winrates. Most if not all the players here are not good. So why spew garbage that makes no sense not to.

Most here are rec players. "I made 12k in 2 months, 40k is possible at 1/2". Sounds delusional if you ask me.
$20/hr * 2k hours = $40k, doesn't seem that difficult. My goal for this year is $65k.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:42 PM   #3752
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Dude nobody is making 65k a year at 1/2 or 1/3. Only in the softest of games with whales spewing everywhere could that be possible. 1/2 or 1/3 in Vegas not a chance.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:01 PM   #3753
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Lmao I'm done, 40k is easy(not that difficult) ahahahahahaha.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:04 PM   #3754
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I could make 65k a year playing 1/3 np

I don't have kids or responsibilities so grinding 12 hrs on thur fri sat and sun night isnt an issue
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:07 PM   #3755
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I could make 65k a year playing 1/3 np
Ok when I said nobody I meant very few. I don't think you could if I set a cap on hours. The difference between 1/2 and 1/3 is actually huge here. The poster I am talking about mostly plays 1/2 at red rock.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:11 PM   #3756
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Nope that's serious. He puts in a **** ton of hours though.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:18 PM   #3757
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Dude nobody is making 65k a year at 1/2 or 1/3. Only in the softest of games with whales spewing everywhere could that be possible. 1/2 or 1/3 in Vegas not a chance.
Will report back at the end of the year with win/loss charts. $5500/mo over 12 months is not impossible. 2013 chart so far, with all of these being at Red Rock except 1/5 when I lost $630 at Venetian, mostly due to losing a $1300 pot with 66 to AA on a A62 flop:

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Old 01-25-2013, 09:21 PM   #3758
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You run hot. There's not much more to it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:27 PM   #3759
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Ya...to actually play 1500 hours of poker in itself is an accomplishment.

To maintain a WR over that span without moving up is much harder than most can imagine.

Just look around this forum, how many regulars stuck around for a year?
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:32 PM   #3760
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When someone says you can make $20/hr at $1/$2 they don't really mean YOU or anyone who gives it the old college try. They mean top players. Whether you become a top player is up to you. YOU are probably a losing player.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:34 PM   #3761
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Ya...to actually play 1500 hours of poker in itself is an accomplishment.

To maintain a WR over that span without moving up is much harder than most can imagine.

Just look around this forum, how many regulars stuck around for a year?
I don't think 1500 is that hard. I agree though pretty much everyone wants to move up. The most likely candidate to do this is a 2/5 grinder that plays a lot but 2/5 is the biggest game in the room. Sabr is prob the best example, but I think he only played like 1200 hours last year.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:42 PM   #3762
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It's not hard until you actually try. 1500 hours is a lot.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #3763
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I have done it before.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:47 PM   #3764
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Then you deserve my respect, or maybe sympathy.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:50 PM   #3765
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Haha a couple years ago the game I played in was just way too good to pass up. There were several people coming in and dumping 4-5 buyins a night. I played like 6 nights a week from 8am until at least 3am.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:06 PM   #3766
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I don't think 1500 is that hard. I agree though pretty much everyone wants to move up. The most likely candidate to do this is a 2/5 grinder that plays a lot but 2/5 is the biggest game in the room. Sabr is prob the best example, but I think he only played like 1200 hours last year.
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I have done it before.
my man - I have done it and i continue to do it. I have not seen many log as many hours as i do. This is not even close to a brag. The point is soooo many "pros" talk a big game but very very few actually log teh hours. This is y it is sooo silly when people say 50$/hr at 2/5=100k/year. I work my ass off and can not log 2k hours. I must decompress from time to time or i'll go crazy/burn out
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:13 PM   #3767
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1200 is about my max without blowing it up at a poker table.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:26 PM   #3768
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Yeah when I did 2000+ hours it was in a super soft game and I played like a super nit. If you asked another player who was at the game probably nobody would even notice me.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:55 PM   #3769
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8am-3am 6 nights a week your a BEAST!! I do 40 hours a week pretty comfortably but it's pretty much my limit and have previously had a week where iv put 70 hours but to do that consistently would degrade my quality of life.

I play in London and was able to made 37k doing 35 hours a week between jan 11- jan12 playing strictly 1-3. Took some months off invested my life roll into a property and in august basically started again with 5k ran it up to 15 been playing 2-5 and 5-5 since with the odd hour or two playing 1-2 if I'm waiting for a game. My roll is now 38k but includes a 7k tourney win and iv taken one unsuccessful shot at 5-10 but intend on studying and receiving some coaching and heading right back soon.

40k is definitely achievable at low stakes but it IS top 5% of player pool, as for moving up it's definitely harder for some. Those who have high monthly outgoings and loads of Life leaks, playing for a living is hard work and there a lot of discipline required in every aspect of your life.

Can I ask wat people hourly rates are strictly during wsop time for 2-5 and/5-5 games if anyone has logged? Quite curious if there's a big difference compared to their normal hours coming to Vegas for 2months end of may.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:59 PM   #3770
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Like I said about me putting those hours in I mean I was really really nitty. It was like if I said to you hey just be awake from 8pm to 3am. It was like going out to dinner and watching sports with friends except playing 4 or 5 hands of poker a night.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:03 PM   #3771
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Oh 8pm earlier you wrote 8am-3am I thought you played 18 hours a day lol, I was thinking wtf!!
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:03 AM   #3772
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I found myself reading this thread over vacation and some of it is crazy, while a few have a relatively good idea of what they are talking about. The whole downswing thing started driving me nuts so I figured I'd post something.

This is all 1/2 & 1/3 from last 2 years. I know this will sound ridiculous, but my winrate suffered a lot in 2012 from boredom/"hero calls"/making calls pegging a range on 1 hand haha......none of it matters though. Just figured maybe someone get a decent idea of something since I thing this is most hours shown by anyone.

The dead spots in graph are most likely times when I was on vacation for 2 weeks or so or just didn't feel like playing.



If I kept 100% discipline and didn't turn into a disinterested robot in 2012 I can see $30/hr. I started taking more "chances" in obvious fold spots in hopes of not having to grind because I burned out a bit.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:11 PM   #3773
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I played 1300 hours at $2/5 last year. I believe I play in one of the most profitable rooms in the country, and made a little over $50/hour for the year, netting right under 70k last year.

How do you guys post pics of your pokerjournal?
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:17 PM   #3774
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How do you guys post pics of your pokerjournal?
Screen capture and use a hosting site like photobucket.
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