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Old 12-15-2012, 08:13 PM   #3126
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WELL DONE! These stats are scary identical to mine for this year, hours and rate, I'll post my situation below this comment. What app is that? I like it a lot.
Thanks, it's Poker Journal for iPhone. Best $13 I've spent on apps IMO. Really helps me keep my sessions in perspective when I go through hot or cold streaks.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:20 PM   #3127
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My 2012. I usually buy in a little shorter something which ill be remedying in 2013.

The local card house where I play a good bit rarely has anyone buying in for more than 100 BBs. This makes the game play more like a .50/1 game at times.

I'm not exactly ecstatic with 12.50 per hour but. I realize I need to work on my game quite a bit! Look to push this up to $18 per hour for 2013 through a combination of better play and buying in deeper at a casino that I will be frequenting much more this coming year.[/QUOTE]

Not bad at all considering the shallow stacks. Don't underestimate the boost your winrate gets when you cooler someone 200BB deep, or they simply punt their stack to you. When all you have are 50-100BB stacks, you're not benefiting as much when people lose their minds, which happens fairly regularly.

If you're better than your competition, it's almost always better to be deeper stacked at the table. Exceptions are when your roll is very short or if you tilt like a madman when you lose.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:13 PM   #3128
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My first 110 hours at $1/$2 as a 21 year old have me at +$3528 for an hourly rate of $32.07 or 16 big blinds / hr. This is simply me running very very hot, correct? I play a pretty TAG style, rarely getting way out of line but not afraid to mix it up if I feel the table is right. Raising 87s types of hands from any position is somewhat common for me and I think that combined with my tight image gets me paid on the 456 flops. I also took a shot at $2/$5 a few days ago and cashed out $2001 on a $600 buy in over 8 hours (was DEFINITELY running super hot for most of that session).

I've been a winner in 21 of the 26 sessions I've played (one of those was +$2 though) and occasionally play 50c/$1 in a home game that is included in those sessions.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:47 PM   #3129
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I have played 192 sessions in 2012 and won 130.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:55 PM   #3130
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I think you should stick to 1/2. All the 2/5 regs will eat you for breakfast and there is no money to be made.

And the app is called poker journal. It's great for risk of ruin calculations because it automatically does standard deviation per hour and per session. I think it's $13 but its exclusively for apple. You can retroactively add sessions and it has an excel export, so you can keep adding to your original spreadsheet.

I'm not going to post a screenshot of mine until I hit $70/hr at 2/5.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:56 AM   #3131
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I have a question ... what % of sessions do you guys normally win?

I make $23/hr at nearly 1,000 hours of 1/2, which I know is pretty good, but I only win 53.6% of my sessions. I bring 2 or 3 buy-ins with me, and 27% of the time I go felt by the end of the night (meaning I lose $400-$600). Do these numbers seem absurdly high for someone with my hourly? I ask because I see other posters on 2+2 post that they win the vast majority of their sessions, and I know a couple of people who play for a winning who also claim to win much more often.
i am 65/35 at 2/5NLH and 5/10NLH

back when i used to grind 1/2 i would take $600 (3 BI in games i played) and i think i busted my pocket roll once in 2 years.

not sure what this really means for you but maybe it is a clue that you have some tile issues to deal with?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:30 PM   #3132
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Last 600 hours at 100bb cap 2/5 at Foxwoods/Borgata. I had a few monster sessions at harrahs in AC during WSOPc where their buyin is 1k which explains average buyin being >500



My transition to 5/10 has been completely awful.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #3133
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Last 600 hours at 100bb cap 2/5 at Foxwoods/Borgata. I had a few monster sessions at harrahs in AC during WSOPc where their buyin is 1k which explains average buyin being >500



My transition to 5/10 has been completely awful.
This seems like a really high hourly for 2/5. Good job!
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:57 PM   #3134
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blech I am currently at 65/35 for 1/3 @ 35 $/hr and 57/43 for 2/5 @ 23 $/hr. His stats seem bizarre wrt to standard deviation

but at 2/5 I am in the middle of a 350 hour break even stretch and a 6k downswing =\
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:02 PM   #3135
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Last 600 hours at 100bb cap 2/5 at Foxwoods/Borgata. I had a few monster sessions at harrahs in AC during WSOPc where their buyin is 1k which explains average buyin being >500



My transition to 5/10 has been completely awful.
Care to share your losing session stat?

Reading just your winning sessions seems to me that you are quite discipline as a player and can leave when down, even just a few hundreds.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #3136
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Sure.

Also- this hourly has 130 hours where I played 2/5 in Vegas with a 1k cap so it's not all 100bb like I thought. Although my hourly over that sample is only 53.

I am pretty disciplined with getting up and in all honestly I rarely tilt.



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Old 12-16-2012, 06:22 PM   #3137
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must feel nice to run like god
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:27 PM   #3138
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Must be nice to have average win be ~50% higher than your average loss!

Envious fo' sho.

To everyone else, is your average win bigger than your average loss?
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:45 PM   #3139
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Play longer when winning and shorter when losing...

Most people do the opposite lol.

I run very bad lol, but I would guess I win a lot more in non-showdown hands than the average winning reg.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:53 PM   #3140
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Ya...I have issues with winning, mental block issue. Although not as much of a problem as losing tilt, winning tilt is nevertheless capping my WR.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:08 PM   #3141
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Must be nice to have average win be ~50% higher than your average loss!

Envious fo' sho.

To everyone else, is your average win bigger than your average loss?
I don't have an easy way to check, but I'd say my average loss is much bigger than my average win.

As of the end of August, the last time I counted it up, I was 73% wins. But most of my losses were huge in comparison to the wins. Winning 3 out of 4 often looks like +$80, +$95, +$160, -$300 in my records.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:30 PM   #3142
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I don't have an easy way to check, but I'd say my average loss is much bigger than my average win.

As of the end of August, the last time I counted it up, I was 73% wins. But most of my losses were huge in comparison to the wins. Winning 3 out of 4 often looks like +$80, +$95, +$160, -$300 in my records.
i found that when this happened to me, i was just playing too tight. i swore i hadn't been all-in at any point in two months. then one night i was all-in three times in like 2 hours and it just clicked that i was playing too passively and too tight. this was a couple of years ago.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:42 PM   #3143
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Avg loss: (458.77)
Avg win: 357.57

All 1/2NL. I play long sessions and usually hit my stop loss if I leave a loser.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:51 PM   #3144
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I made a post a few weeks ago saying i had been grinding live cash and online tournaments and had a bankroll of 9K. I am now 3 1/2 months into my poker journey and am still playing 1-2 NL Live and occasionaly 2-5 NL Live. I also play online tournaments, just came 155 in the Sunday Million today.

My bankroll is now $11,700 + $1000 in money owed to me.

It can be done!
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:53 PM   #3145
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i found that when this happened to me, i was just playing too tight. i swore i hadn't been all-in at any point in two months. then one night i was all-in three times in like 2 hours and it just clicked that i was playing too passively and too tight. this was a couple of years ago.
I'm not playing too tight. If anything, I'm opening too wide a range for my games. But I don't think that's my problem, either.

What happens to me A LOT is I'll win the minimum by running hot early, and then lose a lot of it back with a bunch of raise/whiff/c-bet or raise/whiff/check fold.

It's a very common patter for my winning nights for me to go up $150 or $200, Lise back down to up $50, win back up to $150, then quit at up $90 or $100. Those are the nights that feel like 0 variance nights--I flop top pair 1 in 3 or so times, make a few bucks here and there with a few overpairs, set mine unsuccessfully 5 or 6 times.

Anyway:

I went back and counted up September-December. That period has been the worst period of run bad in a year in which I have run worse than I've ever run. My winning percentage for that period has been 60% on the nose, which probably puts me at 67 or 68% wins on the year.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:02 AM   #3146
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Play longer when winning and shorter when losing...

Most people do the opposite lol.

I run very bad lol, but I would guess I win a lot more in non-showdown hands than the average winning reg.
Isn't it just the greatest when players around you always just assume you are a lucky running-hot god?

It seems like every day at least 2-3 people say that to me and I just nod and smile. It's amazing how they can't figure out how bad they are.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:48 AM   #3147
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I run very bad lol, but I would guess I win a lot more in non-showdown hands than the average winning reg.
pshh

I hope you're kidding.

You've probably played like 30,000 hands. Pretty unlikely that you've run bad over that small stretch.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:39 AM   #3148
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I'm not playing too tight. If anything, I'm opening too wide a range for my games. But I don't think that's my problem, either.

What happens to me A LOT is I'll win the minimum by running hot early, and then lose a lot of it back with a bunch of raise/whiff/c-bet or raise/whiff/check fold.

It's a very common patter for my winning nights for me to go up $150 or $200, Lise back down to up $50, win back up to $150, then quit at up $90 or $100. Those are the nights that feel like 0 variance nights--I flop top pair 1 in 3 or so times, make a few bucks here and there with a few overpairs, set mine unsuccessfully 5 or 6 times.

Anyway:

I went back and counted up September-December. That period has been the worst period of run bad in a year in which I have run worse than I've ever run. My winning percentage for that period has been 60% on the nose, which probably puts me at 67 or 68% wins on the year.
you are playing too long when stuck imo
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:11 PM   #3149
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pshh

I hope you're kidding.

You've probably played like 30,000 hands. Pretty unlikely that you've run bad over that small stretch.
I think I'm on the positive side of variance and if I'm in the negative it is not by much.
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when your graph has no downswings that is your sign
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