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Old 11-22-2012, 06:00 PM   #2851
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #2852
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When I need money I lose, when I don't need money I win... Sad times...

JJ v 1010 I reraise for last ~$80 to my name, and get called by v (original raiser and insane asian, raises with any suited connectors in any position. Will call any bet on flop or turn with flush or straight draw.) Flop comes 10qa, turn 3, river 8, bye bye.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:41 PM   #2853
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When I need money I lose, when I don't need money I win... Sad times...
You should only be gambling when you don't need the money anyways, so the solution to this problem is doubly obvious.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:48 PM   #2854
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I reraise for last ~$80 to my name
If this is true, then you have a serious problem and need to do something about it, none of which includes playing poker.

GgoodluckG
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:28 PM   #2855
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1-2 NL in the Casino

Any of you grind out 1-2 NL in the Casino for a living? Or know of anyone who does. Is this possible? I am talking about making a minimum of 50k a year.

All inputs are appreciated.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:30 PM   #2856
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

go to live low stakes nl down there
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:17 PM   #2857
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whats "the Casino" ?
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:26 PM   #2858
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

If you can make $20 an hour and play 50 hours a week, it's done. I don't know anyone that plays1/2 for a living, but I'm sure someone does.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:31 PM   #2859
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whats "the Casino" ?
Playing live as opposed to playing on-line.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:25 PM   #2860
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

I'm sure it can be done, but once you can make 50k a year playing at 1/2:
(10bb/hr which is pretty damn good) 20$/hr * 50 hr/week * 50 weeks/year you can likely do better than that at 2/5, or at least comparable.
(5.5bb/hr) 27$/hr * 40hr / week = 1080/week = ~60k / year and your BB per hour went down by 35%.
Point is, trying to make a living playing 1/2 just isn't really the best idea ever.
Having said that, go search for the 50 other threads about the same thing using the search function, or look in the 'Winrates, Bankrolls, and Finances' thread. There is lots in there about this exact question.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:43 AM   #2861
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Definitely doable $25/hr*40hrs*50weeks. Not very easy though, and I assume not many people can't do it. It's VERY easy to get burnt out playing 40 hrs/week live. I'm not sure what others do, but if I go on an extended bad run, I usually take a few days-week off.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:44 AM   #2862
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

Getting 50 good hours in a week can be very tough in some markets. Vegas, AC, LA, all no problem since there are good games all over the place all the time. But if you were in the middle of Ohio with one random local casino ... Good luck.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:01 AM   #2863
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There are many people playing 1/2 for a living in Louisville, Ky. The advantage here is that 1/2 goes 24/7 and our game plays very big.

We can buy-in for half the biggest stack. We also can straddle for any amount from any position. You can easily average 50/Hr on weekends.

I think it would be difficult to make 50K/ yr if people bought in for $200 and played tight.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:12 AM   #2864
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

If you're that good, there's basically no reason to be playing 1/2. Almost anyone good enough to reach that win rate should move to a higher game.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:49 AM   #2865
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why any of you would even anwser this guy is beyond me. i mean come on, he's asking if he can make more than 50k a year playing 1/2 lol.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:59 AM   #2866
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Well, it is a bit of an odd situation. I think the cap has much more to do with your winrate than anything else. An uncapped 1-2 game is vastly different from a 100 cap buyin, or even a 200 cap buyin. I've often wondered why players at "the Casino" haven't started referring to their games as online did, such as 200NL or 300NL. If I'm talking to a 1-3 player whose game is capped at 300, while mine is capped at 500, we are not even talking about the same games....
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:48 AM   #2867
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Many try it. Many claim they do (especially here on 2+2). Only a few really do, and most of them move up from 1-2 as soon as they can. A very hard road, but not totally impossible. Good luck to you!
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:44 PM   #2868
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Any of you grind out 1-2 NL in the Casino for a living? Or know of anyone who does. Is this possible? I am talking about making a minimum of 50k a year.

All inputs are appreciated.
There are people doing this at Harrahs Cherokee. The Pokertek tables allow you to get 40+ hands per hour and there is no dealer to tip.

I'm guessing here but assuming there are 40-50 regs and maybe another 100 semi-regs who play there. I think the number of them making $50k a year is probably only like 5-6. This is mainly because a great player there can make more like $25-30 per hour due to the faster game.

If you figure in the value of comps and such then the number is higher.

Any Cherokee reg feel free to disagree with this if you like. Just going on my own observations.

Making $50 k with live dealers has got to be really difficult
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:13 PM   #2869
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funny how this tread seems like the same 2-3 conversations repeated over and over and over

i guess this week it is the "making a living at 1/2 discussion"
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:13 PM   #2870
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If this is true, then you have a serious problem and need to do something about it, none of which includes playing poker.

GgoodluckG
Yes, he needs to take that last $80, play blackjack and run it up to several hundred, bet it all at the sports book, run it up some more at a lower limit, back in action.

That's what Jack Strauss did once.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:43 AM   #2871
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Re: 1-2 NL in the Casino

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Any of you grind out 1-2 NL in the Casino for a living? Or know of anyone who does. Is this possible? I am talking about making a minimum of 50k a year.

All inputs are appreciated.
I'm doing it now because all that's offered in my area is 1/2nl. I'm not sure you'd call it a living. I'm 34 and live w/my parents since I moved in w/them after black friday. Currently trying to grind enough money to make a move to vegas.

50k/year sounds freaking tough. If you live near a major room, and you put in tons of hours b4 becoming insane, have a big winrate, and can maintain that winrate I guess it's possible. 50k/20hr = playing at ur best 48hrs/week w/no weeks off.....gl w/that.

I'd say 50k is pretty much unattainable at 1/2nl.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:11 AM   #2872
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Anything is possible but here is my strategy:

Keep expenses as low as humanly possible while still enjoying life.
Grind 1-2 6 days a week for 6+ hours a day.
Grind tournaments on stars on sundays.
Play the bi monthly 300$ live tournies.
Get stakes for the $500 tournies.
Take shots at 2-5 when the game looks good and on my A game.

BTW my bankroll is roughly 9k.

I estimate I will make 30-40k at 1-2NL.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:58 PM   #2873
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I really wish I could lay some crazy odds and sidebet people who think they can make this type of money at 1/2.

It sounds good on paper until you want to shoot yourself in the face after the first 2 months.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:12 PM   #2874
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Anything is possible but here is my strategy:

Keep expenses as low as humanly possible while still enjoying life.
Grind 1-2 6 days a week for 6+ hours a day.
Grind tournaments on stars on sundays.
Play the bi monthly 300$ live tournies.
Get stakes for the $500 tournies.
Take shots at 2-5 when the game looks good and on my A game.

BTW my bankroll is roughly 9k.

I estimate I will make 30-40k at 1-2NL.
Please start a blog or a thread with updates.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:59 PM   #2875
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Please start a blog or a thread with updates.
Alright, I'll fire up a thread in LLSNL as a test and see how it goes.
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