Well gobbledy - then it could get even better! Keep it up! Curious - you play 2/5 ever or always 1/3?

The 2/5 game rarely goes here. I've never played in it (which is why I never respond in 2/5 threads), maybe one day I'll consider it if the lineup looks right. I'm pretty happy with 1/3 right now, especially since I just do this recreationally.

Ahh.. I see. I was just curious because you likely have built a good roll at 1/3 and I saw in another thread you were going to complete 1000 hrs there. Wondered why it was exclusive, but understand now. Anyways, at rooms that have both, sometimes the 1/3 is still the more profitable spot per hour... so many fish want to play the smallest game (and rightfully so).

kind of a pointless question but im trying to keep track of every dollar i win or lose from poker now. Ive been tracking my w/l for about a month and about 2 months ago i was sitting at caesers when the bad beat hit at harrahs. I got 1,100 which was def nice but im not sure if i should consider it part of my roll? I have def clocked enough hours that i have easily paid 1,100 in rake/badbeat money and if i was playing online and got a rackback im pretty sure i would say its part of my roll. Also, i always calculate gas/tolls into my sessions.

So do you think i should think of it as rakeback money or should i look at it like money i got completely not from poker? It doesnt feel like i deserve it in a way because i didnt win to get it but, i know if i played online and got rakeback i would def think that was my money.

Thoughts?

It should definitely go into your roll, as you're paying rake for those types of promos.

I don't like including BBJ winnings in my poker winrate calcs cuz they can really throw things off (i.e. otherwise I'm winning ~$25/hr at 2/4 limit, which is just slightly unreasonable to say the least). Sure, we pay the toke for the BBJ, but I kinda just chalk that up to the cost of doing business.

On my spreadsheet, I have separate columns for winrate/totals/etc. that don't include the BBJ winnings, and then further columns which do include the BBJ winnings.

Hit a table share once for $4k. Added most of the cash to my roll, and recorded it in my log.
BUT I listed it as a separate GAME. So my overall winnings / rate reflect it, but when I filter by game type it doesn't change my $1/2 or $2/5 results, it shows up as a separate row.

You can't think of it like rakeback, because rakeback is steadier and more dependable. If you put this into your numbers at all its going to screw them up. So don't use it for stats.

As far as should it go into your roll -- certainly some should, especially if your roll needs it.

If your roll is already pretty healthy, its worth considering using the found money to do something poker related but not your normal thing. Take a couple buyin shot at 2/5 or play a couple decent MTTs

I personally would deposit it into my bank account but not record it in my poker tracking software. My poker BR is pretty healthy for the game I play in (especially with FTP back ) so it would not go into my poker BR.

If its small like less than a $100 i will throw it in my stack and record it. Might even use it to create action.

Bankroll yes, winnings no.

You'd need 10,000 years of data for jackpots to make anything close to useful statistical knowledge, so tracking it tells you absolutely nothing. Unless you want to brag to your results-oriented friends that you've made $20,000 in only two months of playing 1/2

Not statistically relevant no, but handy for taxes.

Trying to see if I'm a winning player or not

Just finished 33 hours at a casino over 4 days. Had a disastrous 3.5 bi downswing over about 5.5 hours.

These are my numbers so far at 1/2 live play

Sessions : 61
W/L: $3166
Hours: 231.5
Hourly: 13.68
S/D: 98.87

I know 500 hours right? This doesn't seem like much of an hourly at 1/2 of course that drop really killed my hourly. Any thoughts?

Polprof, your numbers seem fine to me -seems like accurate and honest numbers. $13 bucks an hour playing $1/2 is good -if you can maintain for a long time. *Not everyone is going to have the "highest" win rates posible*

You gotta filter a lot of whats posted on here. Kindly keep in mind the overwhelming majority of people who like to talk/post/chat about thier win rate are liars, more times than not win rates are lied about.

Back before online - 300 hours used to be the mark used to determine profitable or not... games were also very soft then. I would say with some confidence that you are profitable. You seem to be low variance though. I have -3 BI swings all the time (like every 20 hours of play involves some period like that).

M already made a good point about this, which is basically that people who seek out / actively participate in these types of forums are typically on the winning end of the scale, and those who further willingly disclose their winrate will be even on the higher end of the scale of these. It's a built in bias. FWIW, I usually take the winrates in this thread at face value unless the write up seems fishy.

Any profit at $1/$2 is good. It means you are beating the game. You are winning almost 7BBs per hour. That's nice.

I am somewhere around there this year. Let me go check.

Yep

Hours: 686
Year to date: +$9,187

Hourly: 13.39


Now, that was only about $9 or $10 per hour as of July 1 or so and I've been working hard to increasing that number. I was $90/hr in September over about 30 hours.

Again I think as long as you are winning, it means you have an edge on the game.

lol sour grapes ITT.

I played dhcg in Starcraft a bit before. I was Protoss and he was Terran. I started beating him every game so he started saying that Protoss is overpowered and impossible to beat, and stopped trying, and just gave up whenever he faced Terran.

Cliffs: Let's just assume with no evidence at all that anything that's difficult is impossible/made up. Winning attitude right there.

dhcg running away, making excuses, and not being honest to himself?

No way, that doesn't sound like him at all.

2k a sufficient bankroll to play 1/3, 300 Live NL, for a TAG... semi-LAG style?

Also, how long/how many hands must one play to get an good idea of ones $/hr.

Thanks in advance.

it will work unless you bust it, only one way to find out.

it is less than 7 buyins ... can you win? yes. your chances of going bust are significantly higher, though.

Honestly with that style you will still see 4-6 BI swings. ID aim for 10-15 BIs preferrably 20.

Thank you guys