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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

10-21-2019 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
LOL @ Poker Journal. For a second I thought you are somehow still using it.
I still use it... course I'm still on iPhone 6.1.3 and won't update because of this.

Glol@me,ldoG
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10-21-2019 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Good to know. I haven't played in the winter months in a few years. Last few sessions this summer seemed very dead with 1 maybe 2 tables of 2/5 running at the Isle. I hope it's better as I'm going to start playing this Friday. Checking out Isle and SHRH.

Given that snowbirds probably are in bed by midnight, would you say optimal hours might not be middle of the night/morning on weekends? I am trying to schedule 7 hours in on Friday and Saturday each week. Was thinking 8 pm - 3 am.
I dont play in the evenings that often and Ive never played past midnight so I cant really help you there. IMO, the Isle is on the verge of being run out of business. More and more people are leaving and not coming back and there a higher percentage of pros and nits than most other places.
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10-22-2019 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I dont play in the evenings that often and Ive never played past midnight so I cant really help you there. IMO, the Isle is on the verge of being run out of business. More and more people are leaving and not coming back and there a higher percentage of pros and nits than most other places.
There is a certain harness driver that is back in Florida that certainly livens up the 1/2 or 2/5 table he is at :-) :-)
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10-22-2019 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
After Poker Journal and RunGood, it is pretty apparent that most of these small developers wouldn't care about their pet project much beyond their initial release.

I recommend using Google Form, which auto exports into Google Sheet and gets pretty much all the same functions through pivot table.
Am I being an old man? I just updated to 13.1.3 after backing up rungood and the app still seems to boot and function fine.
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10-22-2019 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgalosk
Am I being an old man? I just updated to 13.1.3 after backing up rungood and the app still seems to boot and function fine.
I know a guy who has updated and his Run Good works fine also. Im afraid to update because of what I read here. I dont know whats going on.
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10-22-2019 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
There is a certain harness driver that is back in Florida that certainly livens up the 1/2 or 2/5 table he is at :-) :-)
I don't think I know who that is off the top of my head.
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10-22-2019 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I know a guy who has updated and his Run Good works fine also. Im afraid to update because of what I read here. I dont know whats going on.
I can't make a recommendation because it's far out of my depth of expertise, but i can tell you i'm on the latest iOS update and my rungood app works normally and all of my data is still there and accessible like always. Take that as you will.
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10-22-2019 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I know a guy who has updated and his Run Good works fine also. Im afraid to update because of what I read here. I dont know whats going on.


Just take some precautions. Before you update look up the process for reverting back to an older iOS and make sure you have all your backups set incase you need to do that. YouTube should have tons of videos of the process. And obviously export all your rungood data prior to doing anything.

Worst case, reverting back doesn’t work but you have all your rungood data in a csv file and you can import it to a different program. This only really takes a cursory knowledge of excel to do

Medium case, you revert back to a previous iOS and don’t update. This is where I am, as I am using a 6S Plus running iOS 12.2

Best case, everything works fine after you update and you forget all about this


On a side note, I’ve had iPhones since the original, I’ve found after year 2-3ish of ownership, updating iOS is more problematic that it’s worth. By year 2, I usually wait a few months and see how people with similar phones are doing and then decide if I should update or not. By year 3, usually the answer is ‘don’t update’
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10-23-2019 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I don't think I know who that is off the top of my head.
Hmmmm.... his racing colors are white, red and green and he has a heavy Long Island accent, is Italian and about half the time he isn't racing will be half in the bag :-) :-)
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10-23-2019 , 06:53 PM
iOS 13.2 is when it stops working.

Yes, it's a developer beta, but just a FYI.
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10-23-2019 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
Hmmmm.... his racing colors are white, red and green and he has a heavy Long Island accent, is Italian and about half the time he isn't racing will be half in the bag :-) :-)
I figured out who you are talking about by total accident. He was standing near my table today and someone mentioned he was a harness racer. What a coincidence.....and yeah, hes some good action.
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10-24-2019 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I dont play in the evenings that often and Ive never played past midnight so I cant really help you there. IMO, the Isle is on the verge of being run out of business. More and more people are leaving and not coming back and there a higher percentage of pros and nits than most other places.
Mike I am curious why you don’t play late night sessions. I have a friend here in Vegas that starts her sessions at 12 noon Thursday to Monday and wonder if you do it for similar reasons.
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10-24-2019 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I figured out who you are talking about by total accident. He was standing near my table today and someone mentioned he was a harness racer. What a coincidence.....and yeah, hes some good action.
He makes for a good game :-)
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10-24-2019 , 02:13 PM
I play evenings and daytime and I am much happier when I play during the day and wake up early/sleep at night. Even though game selection/quality suffers somewhat when I'm on a normal schedule, my mental and physical health thank me.
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10-24-2019 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3aces
Mike I am curious why you don’t play late night sessions. I have a friend here in Vegas that starts her sessions at 12 noon Thursday to Monday and wonder if you do it for similar reasons.
I have a wife and son at home and just prefer to play during the daytime and be home with them in the evening or go to eat in the evening, hang with friends or whatever.
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10-24-2019 , 07:43 PM
Love day time. It's nittier where I'm at but it's also a much smaller pool so you can really develop some solid reads. But I mainly do it for the same reasons as others like family and health
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10-25-2019 , 02:08 AM
It's a tossup, IMO, between swing shift and graveyard which is more lucrative. Swing shift catches the majority of the casual recreational players. Graveyard has fewer of those, but those who are there are often stuck and steaming, and there is a separate population of restaurant and bar workers who come in very late and gamble it up.

Day shift is best for family life and social life, but the games are least good then. Swing shift has the advantage of letting you come home to sleep with your partner, but you miss prime social/family time with them. Graveyard lets you have evenings with family and/or friends, but you wind up sleeping alone. Graveyard play also has the added disadvantage of leaving you with a relatively short window in the daytime to do things like banking, shopping, doctors' appointments, and so forth.
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10-25-2019 , 02:47 AM
Used to work graveyard (job, not poker) and hated it. Yeah you can fit in the family and social time but you can go to sleep at 6am and once you get used to sleeping during the day you can sleep right through to the next night and not feel rested. Once I heard my family walking around the house, thought it was early morning still until my sister shouted "did anyone get the mail?".
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10-25-2019 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Used to work graveyard (job, not poker) and hated it. Yeah you can fit in the family and social time but you can go to sleep at 6am and once you get used to sleeping during the day you can sleep right through to the next night and not feel rested. Once I heard my family walking around the house, thought it was early morning still until my sister shouted "did anyone get the mail?".
Not to mention that waking up when the sun has already set = instant depression for me. I need my vitamin D, damnit!
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10-25-2019 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Not to mention that waking up when the sun has already set = instant depression for me. I need my vitamin D, damnit!
yeah, i often attempted graveyard because those sessions have the highest multiples - if you are going to get a guy start shoving blind every hand it usually happens after 2 am

but could never maintain it for more than a week straight, would just become miserable so i took on an irregular schedule with plenty of naps and short breaks
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10-25-2019 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
It's a tossup, IMO, between swing shift and graveyard which is more lucrative. Swing shift catches the majority of the casual recreational players. Graveyard has fewer of those, but those who are there are often stuck and steaming, and there is a separate population of restaurant and bar workers who come in very late and gamble it up.

Day shift is best for family life and social life, but the games are least good then. Swing shift has the advantage of letting you come home to sleep with your partner, but you miss prime social/family time with them. Graveyard lets you have evenings with family and/or friends, but you wind up sleeping alone. Graveyard play also has the added disadvantage of leaving you with a relatively short window in the daytime to do things like banking, shopping, doctors' appointments, and so forth.
Surprised how little love there is for the early morning shift. You still get lots of the graveyard degens, but also get to do normal things outside poker.
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10-25-2019 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DK Barrel
Surprised how little love there is for the early morning shift. You still get lots of the graveyard degens, but also get to do normal things outside poker.
How early would you sit down, 5am?
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10-25-2019 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
How early would you sit down, 5am?
I saw someone sit down in my game a few years ago, fresh as a daisy, at 2am on a Sunday morning (when I had been there since about 3pm on Saturday). I packed up shortly thereafter.
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10-25-2019 , 12:17 PM
I played normal biz hours for years..tryin to maintain a normal schedule while my kid was in skewl.

I after she graduated I spent a year playing swing into grave. It was my best hourly by a decent amt. When u get people drunk, chasing, tilting, having a party, basically incinerating u gunna win more. Those things happen during the day. But I have found that something special happens during the wee hours that doesnt happen very often during daytime hours
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10-25-2019 , 12:33 PM
Yea, it'll depend on the room and the clientele just when the juiciest hours will be.

In Michigan we have these "Charity Rooms" all over the place. They're only allowed to sell a fixed number of chips in a day ($15,000, unchanged from a 1972 law) and must have everybody cashed out before 2am. They're located in bars and VFW hall type places, 5 minutes away from people's houses. So they're filled with regulars getting *blasted* drunk after work.

What tends to happen is that around midnight when the chips are almost sold out, people go into full on insanity mode. Crazy shoves, terrible play all around. I've had poker friends call it "magic hour". A super juicy window that you just don't see in a regular casino.

I'm sure that other places have similar location specific prime times. In FL maybe that's 3pm so that Grandpa can make it to the early bird. In Vegas it seems like I see the best games at 3am when people that aren't used to being up late are past their bedtime.
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