Unless you are playing HU, poker is not a two person game.

Players who are bad enough to make awful plays all the time will almost always do so without you making -EV plays in return that cost you money vs the rest of the table. There are other ways to make the game better that don't involve burning EV in hands. I'm willing to do small flips and random crap like that, but if you are asking me to intentionally make -EV plays to "make the game better," sorry, that just doesn't benefit me.

Non-fiction. I like science and philosophy.

SABR reading list plz

Haven't flopped a set in approx 20 hours. Last set I flopped, GII OTT, dude rivers a higher set. Before that the last set i flopped was like 20 hours ago

My current session that I'm in, about 8 hours and counting, over 30 pocket pairs, not 1 set flopped, every flop has had an at least 1 overcard to my PP except the 1 AA I've gotten

In other words, it can always get worse....

I appreciate these replies. Believe me,I feel your pain. I need to guard against changing up my play due to recent beats and bad luck. When you get your opponent all in with your AA vs his KK and he spikes a K, you don't want to play it any differently next time, just move on. It happens.

I also made a couple of bad moves during this downswing that I usually wouldn't do, because I became a little gun-shy. I allowed villians to catch up by becoming too passive in some cases.

Wasn't thrilled to read that run-bad can continue for a lot longer than I've experienced, but I'll continue to read, improve and play until I get thru it.

I haven't had a losing year since I started record keeping, but a couple of bad months can really affect your confidence. I'll chalk this up to another lesson learned.

Hello,

I could not find a similar thread for live MTTs and SNGs. So I will ask here to set some SMART goals for my live MTT's the next 6 month.

How much of an IRR can a good above average (not a pro) in MTTs with a buyin between 100-1000$ and fields between 10-60 players expect?

Most of the tourneys are one day events between 5-10 hours. I would call them turbos in comparison to online tournaments to the number of hands you see per level. The Competition consists of good, average, bad and gambling recreational players. Basically no live tournament professional players participate in these tourneys.

thanks

I'm very confident that I'm down over $100K lifetime in all-in equity. LOL at anyone who thinks poker is a fair game.

Currently re-reading "The Selfish Gene" and "The Extended Phenotype - the Long Reach of the Gene" by Richard Dawkins.

Recently read "A Universe from Nothing - Why Is There Something Rather Than Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss.

What? You play 10/20nl and read a book while playing? Yikes man, I assumed you were just a low stakes player. That's just so bad to do in a small player pool game like 10/20+ (even 5/10). It's way worse than having headphones (especially one ear bud) on. There's so many things doing that projects out to the action players that is bad for the game: (1) anti-social and self absorbed, (2) that you're just there to grind for a living and print, (3) that you are gonna be playing nitty/tight, (4) gets you less action from certain fish, (5) can make looser players potentially tighten up/add on to serious, quiet, competitive vibe instead of social, fun, non-competitive vibe, etc.

It's amazing how "smart" poker pros can still be so short sighted/narrow minded. I would suggest re-considering that behavior and really examine how much that hurts your long term EV. Not to mention the other players you play with. If you did that in my player pool at 10/20, not only would you get a ton of **** from a few of the good regs, but the action players would speak up as well. In many areas, that can lead to some real issues for you such as getting shut out of games, etc.

Surprised none of that has already happened. But that would make sense if your'e in Vegas I guess (no idea if you are, but seems most likely). Sorry, but your'e just not self aware enough to realize these things apparently - but they are absolutely true.

There is good reason why no pro tourney grinders play these games and I think having any expectation wrt ROI would be pie in the sky in the type of tourney you are describing. The variance is such that you could play fantastic and not cash for a LONG time. The rake is usually so bad it makes beating these games for any significant amount very unlikely. Play them if you like, but know that it's really just to play some cards and gamble and will never be a steady, long term source of significant income.

GL!

Yes, you make quite a lot of assumptions that are false.

The majority of the time I don't read while playing. I read when waiting for a game, or when trying to put extra hours in a bad game, such as when some actual nits don't want to straddle.

Going off ^^^^ figure you gave. As well as your other posts defending reading at the table (not when waiting for a game) saying it’s not as bad as headphones and how rich fish don’t care about things like that


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First post. Here are my lifetime results
Live Cash Games
NLH
Hours played 7996
Net +301312
PLO
Hours played 476
Net +14911
Stud H
Hours played 149
Net -43547

Stake sizes:
1/2
Hours 39
Net -334
1/3
Hours 4
Net -16
2/5
Hours 4583
Net +200256
5/10
Hours 3595
Net +140723
10/20
Hours 52
Net +9006
10/25
Hours 48
Net -33706
20/40
Hours 17
Net -1003
25/50
Hours 2
Net -2128
75/150
Hours 128
Net -44384
150/300
Hours 3
Net +643

Day of the week:
Monday
Hours 1064
Net +45751
Tuesday
Hours 2199
Net +61114
Wednesday
Hours 1455
Net +77090
Thursday
Hours 1214
Net +17670
Friday
Hours 1306
Net +42287
Saturday
Hours 1394
Net +20928
Sunday
Hours 822
Net +3351

Location:
Aria vegas
Hours 6
Net +2728
Bellagio vegas
Hours 2
Net -419
Borgata Atlantic city
Hours 205
Net -3322
Chasers NH
Hours 195
Net +16774
Foxwoods
Hours 6265
Net +221065
Grosvenor London
Hours 11
Net -1636 pounds
Hampton Falls
Hours 2
Net -473
Harrahs Atlantic City
Hours 12.5
Net +684
Holland Casino
Hours 1
Net -750 euros
Home games
Hours 11
Net -85
Jack Cleveland
Hours 2
Net -8
MGM Springfield
Hours 26
Net -1955
Mohegan Sun CT
Hours 1730
Net +41056
Nashua Poker
Hours 6.5
Net +239
Parx PA
Hours 4
Net +770
Rio vegas
Hours 28
Net -2129
Rockingham NH
Hours 9
Net -489
Seabrook NH
Hours 1
Net +47
Twin River RI
Hours 117
Net +3308
Winstar OK
Hours 1
Net -125
Wynn vegas
Hours 24
Net -8681

2012
Hours 162
Net -837
2013
Hours 1650
Net +84806
2014
Hours 1659
Net *****39
2015
Hours 1093
Net +757
2016
Hours 1220
Net -2143
2017
Hours 1140
Net +39219
2018
Hours 1665
Net +43873
2019
Hours 75
Net +4331

Overall
Hours 8664
Net +268461

Updated 11/11/12 to 1/12/2019 17:32 EST

Awesome/nice work!

I found it interesting you moved up to 2/5 after 43 hours at 1/2 and 1/3 and -$350 results. Any comments on that?

Looks like Foxwoods is your main spot. Is that for convenience or are the games best there?

Well it appears that you should t okay above 10/20 and should take Thursdays off

Nice results!

Sick volume mango

Stud hi not ur game huh?

Thanks! When I started playing I didn't track. I have about 200 untracked hours at 1/2. I ran like god and made 8k went up to 2/5 after

I felt I definitely ran below EV but admit I made some mistakes and should've got out of the game earlier. My approach was studying how often hands are dealt with a random upcard. Would use propokertools to compare stud hand equities. I thought that was enough to beat 60+ year old millionaires but it turns out those guys are super competitive and actually have mostly good instincts for the game.

Just yanking your chain. I love stud, wish it ran more. Would be the 9th best player at the table.

I agree that the old timers know how to play that one.

2018 summary
250-300 hr / yr rec-reg play $1/2, $1/3 & $2/5 NLHE, PLO $2/5 & $5/10 Big-O. For ~15 yrs I win ~12 bb’s/hr playing mostly low stakes NLHE. In 2018 ran at 7.5 bbs hrs over 300 hrs. Some was less good variance. Most was I played like a chimp with a learning disability. Somehow I lost discipline for 2/3rds of the year and implemented a horrific lose-passive style that didn’t work well. I am comfortable playing LAG, TAG, LP or weak-tight as the game dictates. Somehow i’ve Lost the discipline or skill(?) to recognize what style i’m Playing in time to adjust. Any useful thoughts, tips or tricks to get back in line? Thanks

That same thing happens to me. No advice but it has come and gone several times in ~5ish years of playing.

I'm trying to restart poker for 2019. Casual weekend hobby, trying to be a better live player. 1/2 NL, staked myself $1k. 4 sessions, 10 hours, +$646. Decided that I deserve to pay myself $1k back lol.

Bankroll now is $646. Can't really do bankroll management when the lowest stakes are 1/2NL. Trying to not reach into my bank account. First goal is to play +EV poker. Second goal is to hit $2k.

I'm going to post some giraffes in a few weeks. They're going to show some really good runs (12 bb/hr) and some really bad runs (4 bb/hr) and everything in between over non-trivial sample sizes (nothing less than 1000 hours), all within what is overall an incredibly low variance steady-as-she-goes upward (albeit boring unspectacular) giraffe.

The point is that I think we often overly rely on our results, especially ones over lol sample sizes, as an indication of how we're playing. We're most likely not playing nearly as well as we think we are when we're putting up great results, and on the flip side likely not playing nearly as poorly as we think we are when we're putting up meh results, and all within an everchanging poker landscape.

Gcongratsonwinning,imoG

If you can afford it, why bother putting the 1k back right now? Why not just keep it included until you get to a solid $ amount, like 4k?

Not sure, psychological reasons? I'm keeping my poker fund as cash in a drawer, and it feels good to make a $1k deposit back into the bank account.

We can buy in here for 25BB min, giving me 13 buy ins for short stack. I want to try out a few more sessions during peak hours to see where I end up.