It's gotta be online. 150k hands is 5k hours min live.

Um, I'm guessing not?

I have never consistently played live poker, it is always an occasional trip. I now live pretty close to a local card hall and I can play regularly.

I used to play a lot of online poker, .5/.10nl and a little bit of .25nl on bovada before it got shut down.

I have played there a few times but for fun and without a bankroll.

Long story short I want to play live at my local casino, how big of a bankroll do you suggest? I was thinking $1,200. I buy in for $200.

would imagine 4k ish but im no expert

Hobby or are you turning pro?
If it's just a hobby and you can replenish the roll consistently, you don't need to save up a bunch to hang onto. Just bring a few BI (I like 4, but plenty of people have lower stoplosses) with you when you go to play. If this is a profession, then we need to talk expenses and saving enough for that, plus the obligatory don't go pro, it's a **** job, etc.
But if you're looking at something you can't easily add to once it's gone, then I'd suggest 15-20 BI at 100BB. So, $3-4K for 1-2. Just my 2 cents.

It depends on a few factors. What is your goal with poker? Is your poker bankroll independent of your other finances, or will you be adding/taking money from it? What is your skill level?

Poker bankroll is independent from my other finances. I would like to be doing it as a side hobby, not to go pro.

I don't want to be adding in constantly. I have a gambling account that I like to do all my gambling with..

Skill level, I know basic strategy and would play a pretty simple ABC type of strategy to win at .10nl online. Now I know Live is a completely different story so I was looking at a beginning bankroll strategy. Depending on how many ups/downs I have with my first run at it will determine if I will replenish the bankroll and start over again if I bankrupt.

Depends on how good you are. It's going to be pretty rare for a good player to bust more than 5-10 buy ins but it can absolutely happen. It's not that good players can't have a 5 buy in downswing, but the odds of that happening right off the bat are pretty small.

If you want to be safe $4,000.

If it's for a hobby and buy in is 200 then 600 should be plenty. If you lose more than 3 buy ins it's probably time to call it a night


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2k is lots if you are a winning player and don't mind replenishing the roll in the event of a downswing. A 2k downswing will eventually happen but I would say it should be relatively rare for a winning player

awesome info guys, I appreciate it.

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why do people place any importance on thinking about what their exact bankroll is at 1/2? just play. see how you do. get an idea of whether you have an edge in the game or not. don't quit your day job. the idea of a bankroll is only significant when losing it means you can't play the game anymore or have to make lifestyle changes.

This. Bankroll size shouldn't really be an issue if you have a steady job and you're just playing as a hobby. If you're trying to be a pro grinder or are relying on poker for any of your life expenses, then it becomes an issue. Just play with what you can afford to lose and see what happens. If you feel like the game has the edge over your or you start to compile more losses than what you feel is sustainable, then quit playing and work on your game away from the table until you bank enough money to start playing again without it affecting your life.

I think it's a good idea to segregate your poker roll if you play on a regular basis, especially if you're aspiring to move up in stakes or take the occasional shot in larger games. If you have a steady income though, and you just want to play recreationally and get your feet wet in the live game, the importance of having X amount of money set aside before you can start playing is something that's overblown and really not that important IMO. Just make sure you're only playing with money that you can afford to lose, and don't worry about it.

When I go out playing cash I take 2*100bb for what ever stakes I'm playing.
I'm usually pretty tilted if I lose 2 buy-ins so then go home. I also don't take my bank card or anything else to prevent multi- re-loads.
I started off with no bank roll at all, just taking 1*100bb buy in, I built my roll by by putting 50% of winnings into a separate account (the glove box of my car) and would only use that to play, now I am pretty well rolled to play up £2-5+ although I mainly play £1-2, and I put 20% winnings into the roll, the Mrs takes 10%, holiday fund takes 40% and the rest gets wasted by me.

Probably not a good idea to leave money in your car

Background: I have a tiny sample size and have no aspirations of turning pro. I have a job, and am trying to keep my poker roll segregated. Play approx. 50hrs monthly.
Goals: I am trying to start shot taking 2-5nl in the next few months and hopefully play 2-5nl on the regular by the end of the year.
Results so far:
YTD
182.5 hrs played at 1/2nl
+$4587
12.5bb/hr

My idea is to wait until I have a certain amount in my roll, then take a few buyins to 2/5. If I lose that move back to 1/2 to build again and rinse/repeat. Do this until I stick at 2/5.

Bad plan? Best plan?

That's a pretty standard move up plan. I would not take any shots though until what you lose doesn't put you back in 1/2 rebuilding mode. Otherwise you'll be scared money despite having money behind.

Define 1/2 rebuilding mode? Do you mean you wouldn't take shots until you are fully rolled for 2/5?

The most important part of the plan is that you have a job, so really not much wrong you could do here poker-wise.

I'm guessing you have a handle on some of the regs that play 1/2 and 2/5 in your room? If so, perhaps instead of shot taking at a predetermined time, perhaps instead shot take when the 2/5 table looks good, and then drop back to the 1/2 table when the 2/5 table gets bad.

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No I mean don't shot take 2/5 until you can lose every dollar in your wallet and still be rolled for 1/2. Like I see some people take a shot at 2/5 with $2k in their roll. Then they lose 1k and the next time they play even 1/2 they're praying not to run bad. Last time I took 2/5 shots I had 7-8k in my roll so losing a couple bi was a bummer but I was still fully rolled for 1/2.

I play nights and weekends at the Isle, so honestly everything under the 5/10 always looks pretty good. I definitely know the 1/2 regs pretty well, but I've never played with most of the 2/5 ones.

2/5 usually has 4+ tables going when I'm there.

Gotchya, yea that makes sense to me. Was thinking about taking a 1k shot when I have 6k in the roll.

Thr specifics are totally individual. If you're cool with a 5k roll for 1/2 then absolutely take your shot. The other thing to consider is opportunity cost of NOT taking the 2/5 shot. If you can crush 2/5 you're wasting money and time by not playing as soon as possible. I'm a good example. I should have gone to 2/5 much sooner than I did. The lost $$ meant I had to burn my entire roll later on life stuff and I'm still grinding my way back through 1/2 to recover. Had I gone after it more aggressively perhaps I'd have had the capital to not have to quit poker for a year.

Just jump into 2/5 - take a chance. Judging from most of your posts, seems like you take good lines most of the time and pretty decent thought process, from what I can tell.