I have a pal that had a +30k 2 weeks in the wynn 2/5 game a few years back

completely verifiable - it wuz obv the talk of the town

I know a guy who won $24K in 1 session of a $1000 max buy in 2/5 Pineapple game 3 weeks ago. I'm almost certain hes a loser overall. I'm not saying your guy is a losing player, but Im not sure a big week or 2 means much overall.

These are once in a lifetime situations for the most part, but if a player can win $30K in a 2 week heater, its ridiculous to say no 2/5 player wins $100K in any 1 year period

I'd bet it's possible to win 200k in 2/5 if you're grinding it hard enough and crushing.

I've known the dude for years. Pre bf he was a 100nl GRINDER. He won the UGL (ultimate grinder leader board) 2 consecutive months - meaning he won the most money of any one at that particular stake across all major tracked sites. His w/r was truly obscene. He cranked out major volume and his graph was a 45 degree angle

Sounds like you have a full time job and you aren't doing this for a living. Bankroll management is much less important in your case. If I were in your shoes, I'd move up to 2/5/1k as long as I feel comfortable in the game, and move back down if my bankroll drops to 6k or less. (which is still plenty to play 1/3 recreationally with)

recent chatter prompted a review of results since leaving/losing job last May:





to compare, here's the sample directly before, from Oct '15 to May '16:



point is i wouldn't count on poker for ANYTHING.

These last few pages are getting quite delusional.

So you're probably not a 10bb winner is what I'm seeing.

What is that 5-6bb winner over 1200 hours?

I wonder what the effect of not having a job and relying on poker did to your poker game? Do you believe it has no cost on your win-rate or is that what you believe caused a longer stretch of break even?

Life tilt? Nice recovery tho!

5.5bb winner at this point yes

it's a very simple reason as to the cost on winrate: it absolutely caused the BE stretch

(i don't keep track of EV but i probably ran neutral to maybe slightly negative in that time)

here's the simple reason: when you have a 1.5-2 buyin stoploss, BUT also have a 1-2 buyin stop*win*, there you go.

Look at the avg session lengths: 4 hours in the good sample and 2 hours in the bad

basically felt compelled to leave whenever i was up ~100bb so all the session in the bad sample that were bigger wins than that, it's probably because i got AA pre and it held or had a monster post during the time i was plotting my escape.

edit: totally forgot about dumb stuff like opting to take the more passive line (maybe not a bad line, but that's not my game) or letting bad players off the hook because i notice something but don't have the financial confidence to really rumble

ok seems like the vote is to take 2/5 shots, as much as 6k of my BR. I think ill take 2-3k up there and see how it goes. Im thinking im gonna max buyin, because my loose style benefits from deepstacks.

Wow, leave after 100BB win? Seems foolish.

I was down 350bb in first 20 mins of yesterday's session.

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Hello community! I haven´t posted here in a long time!
Thanks to Home games and my daily Job i have now a Bankroll of 8k € and i have decided to make the big step in Casino Live games.
My question:

I can choose beetween 2 games to grind:

1) 2/2, minimum buy in 50 maximum buy in 400. Average stacks at the table is 80-90BB, a couple of short stacks with 40-70 BB and 1-2 150BB+, rest of the table is beetween the 2. Rake is 10% cap 10€ (Europe sucks). Player pool is bad/very bad with max 1 decent player at the table. Most nitty or loose passive.

2) 2/4, minimum Buy in 150 Maximum buy in 1000. Average stacks is 150BB, very Few players buy in for less than 80BB and there are always 1-2 Big stacks. Rake is 5% cap 20€ (again, Europe sucks). Average player is better, always 2-3 Weak tight/TAG in the game, a couple of nitty, maybe one LAG and 1-2, max 3 good Spots a the table. On weekday always the same 3-4 people sitting there, but on weekend is much better than this.

What do you think i should grind in?

Thank you, and sorry for the Bad english.

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I don't know your skill level, but, if you they have to ask it is usually not that good. So start with the 2/2 and move up if you are winning and you are not just running over EV

I Had a 8bb/Hour winrate Over 500 Hours on homegames (0.50/0.50 and 1/1). I Know its Not that big sample and Games plays Lot deeper than casino Games. Players were a lot worse too, a lot of restraddle and stuff Like that. Rake were similar, 10% 5bb cap on These Games.


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Yeah I'd just start lower and if I felt comfortable enough through observation of the higher staked games in the room, I'd try to quickly shot take, whether that was $1k shots or $500 shots.

I'd be much more inclined to move back down if I was taking $1k shot compared to $500.

If i Play 2/4, i think i Would buy in for 100bb and Not for 250bb. at 2/2 i have Always played with max buy in (400 too) because im confident every Time i Seat there i am the best player at the table. But at 2/4 im not sure, and i think i play on later streets a little Money scared if it comes to a big pot.




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I would play the 2/2 game for the sole reason that seeing $20 raked from a single pot would put me on life tilt.

From the way you asked the question, I'd guess your skill level to likely already be in the top 5% of posters on this forum. But just build up further where you are comfortable.

Yeah i think i will Grind 100-200 Hours at 2/2, take a Look at my winrate and Start from there. If i Hit 10k roll in this Time i Start to Grind 2/4 too if table is Good




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You playing in Germany?

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Mooi

I've been building a roll playing 1/2 lately and I don't have any other income at the moment... My roll is at $1600 so my question is should I be buying in for 200 until i have a bigger roll or should i just get in for the max (300 most games / 500 in one that i play in)? I feel like i have more of an edge playing deeper but also if i get stacked that is gonna hurt me.
i appreciate the feedback

If you are a winning player in the game you are playing you should buy in for max since you will be able to maximize your profits that way. Buying in for less until you feel comfortable with your bankroll and everything that could be smart as well. I like getting a feeling playing with different stack sizes so I jump around. It is really up to you and what you feel comfortable putting on the table.

$500 might be a bit too risky given your bank roll but you should be able to try $300 and see if it works out for you.

What sorts of stack sizes are other people buying in for and what sorts of games are you playing in? It matters a fair bit. If your games are loaded with maniacs and SLAGs then buying in shorter so you can handle more variance is fine. If you have a passive whale in the game you should want to buy in for as much as you can.