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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

01-12-2017 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Anyone have advice for best time to play 1-2? I'd say weekend nights? I'm looking to only play when games are soft and not reg infested. I know 1-2 prolly isn't hardest game to beat but I wanna make it the easiest i can.

I assume 5pm - super late night on a Saturday is best?
Depends on location.

The best will be weekends naturally, then weekend nights will be the past, some are like 5pm or later and a lot are 9 pm or later.

Really going to depend on your specific location. Then there is big casino events or events in your city. During those periods it can be super soft all week long.
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01-12-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Edpoker said he turned $200 into $2400 playing 1/2 and YGOchamp said "most of us win/lose $2500 on a daily/weekly basis."

So either YGOchamp's comparison is completely meaningless to Edpokers start at playing 1/2 or he was talking about winning/losing 12 1/2 buy ins on a daily /weekly basis.
I think it falls on the completely meaningless spectrum.
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01-12-2017 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Anyone have advice for best time to play 1-2? I'd say weekend nights? I'm looking to only play when games are soft and not reg infested. I know 1-2 prolly isn't hardest game to beat but I wanna make it the easiest i can.

I assume 5pm - super late night on a Saturday is best?
Really depends on your poker market.

My room is pretty much 100% regs 100% of the time. Admittedly, I don't have the late night (> 10:00pm experience) to say for sure, but my guess is there is no difference whatsoever from playing Tuesday at 3:15pm versus Saturday at 8:00pm versus whatever.

But if you get lots of randoms / tourists / walk-bys / those-out-on-Saturday-night-to-go-play-poker-at-the-casino! (which makes up about 0% of my rooms poker traffic) then your situation will be a lot different.

GknowyourroomG
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01-12-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
If you are losing/winning $2500 at 1/2 on a daily or even weekly basis, something is seriously wrong with your game. Losing 12 1/2 buy ins at 1/2 daily? Weekly? Come, on Man! That's not normal.

Once in a blue moon, OK, but not daily or even weekly
I was talking about 1/2 yes. I suppose I meant 2k though (in reference to $400 to 2.4k)

I've had tons of weeks where I made ~2k when I used to play 1/2, and even a couple sessions of in a single day (only a handful ofc, this is pretty rare). As for losing 2k in a single week, this has only happened once, I just said winning OR losing to demonstrate the variance could potentially go either way in an 8 session period (which would be about a week for a full time grinder)

Idk why I even respond to you though, last time you stopped replying once you ran out of things to argue about without even admitting I was right before ending the convo
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01-12-2017 , 07:43 PM
Folks, don't feed the trolls. Deleting all those posts and writing all those warnings/infractions is a PITA.
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01-12-2017 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamlet
He isn't going to progress at all if he doesn't play. It is silly for a new player ( most likely a losing player) to worry about bankroll management IMO. Who does that when they are starting out?

You get a few buy ins of discretionary money together and play. When you lose, you spend a week or two thinking through the big hands and hopefully posting them for feedback. When you win, do exactly the same thing. Add to the bankroll as your finances permit.
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that would get him into the habit of being a recreational gambler and most likely one who digs into the personal fund to stay in action.
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01-13-2017 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamlet
He isn't going to progress at all if he doesn't play. It is silly for a new player ( most likely a losing player) to worry about bankroll management IMO. Who does that when they are starting out?

You get a few buy ins of discretionary money together and play. When you lose, you spend a week or two thinking through the big hands and hopefully posting them for feedback. When you win, do exactly the same thing. Add to the bankroll as your finances permit.

Everyone here seems to think not having money to play poker for a few weeks is the end of the world. A big bankroll needs to be protected. A newby should just gamble with money they are comfortable losing.
yes to all the above
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01-13-2017 , 10:06 PM
Don't know exactly what direction this conversation went.
Anyway I came up with 8 more buyins to add to my 2 buyins.
Now I have 10BI's, and will get back to grinding in FEB.
thank you,
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01-14-2017 , 05:36 PM
Been on a big upswing last 11 days.
Hours are approximate bc I don't wanna type.

Hrs profit
12.5 -819
6 +1484
8 +1200
7 +1325
3 +1467
9 +2219
10 +2120
18.5 +2764
8.5 +3064

83 hrs total
+14824
Hourly 178.39

Mostly 3/5 with one session each of 1/1/2 and 5/t and 5/5/t plot.
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01-14-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spirit123
Been on a big upswing last 11 days.
Hours are approximate bc I don't wanna type.

Hrs profit
12.5 -819
6 +1484
8 +1200
7 +1325
3 +1467
9 +2219
10 +2120
18.5 +2764
8.5 +3064

83 hrs total
+14824
Hourly 178.39

Mostly 3/5 with one session each of 1/1/2 and 5/t and 5/5/t plot.
Holy fk what a tear. Is your 3/5 game capped?
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01-14-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spirit123
Been on a big upswing last 11 days.
Hours are approximate bc I don't wanna type.

Hrs profit
12.5 -819
6 +1484
8 +1200
7 +1325
3 +1467
9 +2219
10 +2120
18.5 +2764
8.5 +3064

83 hrs total
+14824
Hourly 178.39

Mostly 3/5 with one session each of 1/1/2 and 5/t and 5/5/t plot.
I hope you savor this and remember it fondly so when the other side of variance hits you dont jump out a window.
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01-14-2017 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Holy fk what a tear. Is your 3/5 game capped?
Yes capped at 500.
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01-14-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I hope you savor this and remember it fondly so when the other side of variance hits you dont jump out a window.
Thanks for the reminder. I had a -12k week about a month and half ago so I understand.
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01-15-2017 , 12:40 AM
This is nice to see for me, having 4/5 losing sessions so far this year. Wp.
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01-15-2017 , 01:04 AM
why do you even care
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01-15-2017 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by VolumeKing
why do you even care
???
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01-15-2017 , 01:47 AM
four sessions isnt worth posting about let alone thinking about. wait until you have at least 100hrs, then check. really who cares about the three or four times you went to the casino
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01-15-2017 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by VolumeKing
four sessions isnt worth posting about let alone thinking about. wait until you have at least 100hrs, then check. really who cares about the three or four times you went to the casino
Lol I'm not putting any weight into it. I was simply remarking about how his start to the year is the direct antithesis to mine.
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01-15-2017 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream
Jesus, anyone starting 2017 off in the hole?

3 sessions, 21 hours, -$1230 at 1/2.

-600

-230

-400

6 buyins at 1/2, yuck.
Got up to 40 hours of play, and only $56 in the hole for 2017 now. Holla!
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01-15-2017 , 04:37 AM
Up 9 buy-ins, was up 22. Variance baby.
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01-15-2017 , 10:07 AM
Last year I had a big down swing where I lost $3k @ 1/2 after grinding up a $7k roll. I started with $1k. After this I was so tilted I stopped tracking results and I think I lost another $1k somewhere in the mix. I played through the tilt but wasn't disciplined enough to begin tracking again. I don't really know how much I lost in that period but I think I ended up $10k for the year and I probably played 15 hours a week which would average to something like $12 per hour.

Towards the end of the year I moved up to 1/3. I started tracking in excel again on the 1st and have logged 48.5 hours and have made $2572 or $53 an hour. I've lost $2275 combining my losing sessions. One session I was super tired and lost $1 k. Just a simple note in there is quite useful to give me an idea of the session when I look back.

More accurate data is more fun. Next I'll work on recording more hand history's and learn how to make some cool graphs.
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01-16-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasDonkem
Last year I had a big down swing where I lost $3k @ 1/2 after grinding up a $7k roll. I started with $1k. After this I was so tilted I stopped tracking results and I think I lost another $1k somewhere in the mix. I played through the tilt but wasn't disciplined enough to begin tracking again. I don't really know how much I lost in that period but I think I ended up $10k for the year and I probably played 15 hours a week which would average to something like $12 per hour.

Towards the end of the year I moved up to 1/3. I started tracking in excel again on the 1st and have logged 48.5 hours and have made $2572 or $53 an hour. I've lost $2275 combining my losing sessions. One session I was super tired and lost $1 k. Just a simple note in there is quite useful to give me an idea of the session when I look back.

More accurate data is more fun. Next I'll work on recording more hand history's and learn how to make some cool graphs.
Sounds like you have a lot of discipline problems? If so, isn't moving up in stakes a pretty bad idea?

If I was to rank the most important qualities of a winning player, far and away the number one quality would be discipline. You could have the most expert of crushing strategies but without discipline it would be completely useless.

GgoodluckG
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01-16-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream
Got up to 40 hours of play, and only $56 in the hole for 2017 now. Holla!
Down 16BI @2/5 in 80hrs. Time to do some math and step down for 100hrs or so. Mildly frustrating.

Edit this is in the midst of a 35BI total downswing since late 2015 (I don't play a ton of hours)
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01-16-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I hope you savor this and remember it fondly so when the other side of variance hits you dont jump out a window.
Lol heres what the other side looks like:

(2000) 2/5
1360 2/5
642 2/5
(1500) 5/5 plo
(900) 2/5
(2300) 2/5
1895 2/5
(2200) 5/5 plo
(1500)5/5 plo

About 75hrs

Lost:
88 vs A6hh on Kh 8h 2c ai otf for 5.6k total
JJQT and fd on J964 two tone vs 8753 over-suited for 6k total
AAKQds vs JJT9 vs KKT7 I dominate both flushes aipf 7k

And negative six bullets in a tourney : D

Last edited by scelsi; 01-16-2017 at 03:04 PM.
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01-16-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Started 2017 off with a bang.

2) Suck less at PLO. (Any recommendations?)
Try honing your game playing online microstakes (I'll try not to take all your money )

PLO tournaments for practice?
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